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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: ABS warping and bed temperature]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Wardjr, thank you for the tip..&nbsp; Im going to try adding that reserve battery, hopefully that solves the heater probs..</p><p>Otherwise no matter how high I set the board temp, 85c is it.&nbsp; </p><p>Thanks again.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[morelli.paul]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1312/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-02-12T04:45:41Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: ABS warping and bed temperature]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>COASTER19 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Wardjr, could we please have a post in the Hacks/Mods section of the forum describing how you eventually got the AC heated bed wired up?&nbsp; That is one of the coolest mods I&#039;ve seen yet, and I&#039;d love to do it too if possible!&nbsp; I&#039;m getting tired of being stuck at 85 degrees with the stock bed.</p></blockquote></div><p>I still have my old heat pad... I&#039;m going to experiment with it a little bit and see if I can&#039;t come up with anything useful as far as getting more out of it.&nbsp; The worst thing that can happen is I burn it out.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2291/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-02-09T18:51:16Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: ABS warping and bed temperature]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>That&#039;s correct except I ended up with the same results from just the battery at 12V.&nbsp; So the test is still valid the charger was just a temp fix that got me by until I came up with a better solution.&nbsp; For me that solutions was remove the load of the bed heater from the board via SSR.&nbsp; &nbsp;At that point I just fixed the bad connections on the stock PSU and it functions just fine with the reduced load.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2291/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-02-09T18:24:50Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: ABS warping and bed temperature]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>^ So your solution is a bit deceptive. it could be either the car charger with 50Amps that was helping, or the fact that you are running 14V instead of 12V. </p><p>V= IR, P = I^2 R, So if you increase (14/12)&nbsp; 16.7% voltage, you are increasing by 36% the power going to the heater.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Tomek]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/192/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-02-09T18:20:21Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: ABS warping and bed temperature]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I also find that different brands and types of ABS adhere to the print bed differently.&nbsp; For example I like the green color ABS from Octave.&nbsp; However I&#039;ve had my issues with it warping, especially on large prints.&nbsp; When this happens I break out the Elmer&#039;s glue stick and slather it on the glass.&nbsp; This usually does the trick.&nbsp; I do however wish that my platform heated up faster and to a higher temp and may be in for a MK2 other upgrade this year.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[fcichock]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1455/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-02-09T16:57:56Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: ABS warping and bed temperature]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>COASTER19 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Wardjr, could we please have a post in the Hacks/Mods section of the forum describing how you eventually got the AC heated bed wired up?&nbsp; That is one of the coolest mods I&#039;ve seen yet, and I&#039;d love to do it too if possible!&nbsp; I&#039;m getting tired of being stuck at 85 degrees with the stock bed.</p></blockquote></div><p>It is probably time I get motivated and do exactly that.&nbsp; In the mean time I&#039;m always willing to answer your questions.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2291/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-02-09T16:17:02Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: ABS warping and bed temperature]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Wardjr, could we please have a post in the Hacks/Mods section of the forum describing how you eventually got the AC heated bed wired up?&nbsp; That is one of the coolest mods I&#039;ve seen yet, and I&#039;d love to do it too if possible!&nbsp; I&#039;m getting tired of being stuck at 85 degrees with the stock bed.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[COASTER19]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1142/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-02-09T06:00:55Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: ABS warping and bed temperature]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>morelli.paul wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Im going on almost a year for my SD3.&nbsp; One problem after another.&nbsp; The printer came off kilter out of the box, tilts from side to side...&nbsp; </p><p>Never can get the bed above 85C, I enclosed it in acrylic, have the glass bed and use hairspray.</p><p>I have the bed flat and extruder calibrated.</p><p>Little prints come out fine, anything over 4 inches, good luck.&nbsp; </p><p>Ive been using ABS, I am planning trying PLA, maybe its the ABS.</p></blockquote></div><p>It&#039;s your bed temperature.... Get up over 105 and a lot of your problems will go away.&nbsp; Using a good 5mm brim helps also.<br />So if your bed temp won&#039;t go any higher it can be many things.&nbsp; Mostly the heater that came with the SD3 around the time you got yours was not good.&nbsp; I know mine wasn&#039;t.</p><p>Also the power supply that came with the SD3 was also inadequate.<br />The good news is you can check and see if it&#039;s a Power supply issue.&nbsp; I presume you have the printer board that had screw terminals for the 12v power in.&nbsp; So all I did was put any good 12V&nbsp; battery into play. (I used an ATV Battery)&nbsp; Just hook your PSU wires to the battery then two others wires from that to the board.&nbsp; Red to Red&nbsp; &nbsp;Black to black.&nbsp; <br />This will act as a reserve and if your heater then achieves higher temps then you know it is just a PSU issue.<br />In my case I ran for close to a month using a battery charger that I had laying around that had a 50 amp boost setting.&nbsp; Before I did this I checked that the voltage was near 12V.&nbsp; If I recall it was closer to 14V.&nbsp; It worked like a charm until I could address the PSU issue.&nbsp; <br />Give it a shot what do you have to lose.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-02-09T04:55:13Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: ABS warping and bed temperature]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Im going on almost a year for my SD3.&nbsp; One problem after another.&nbsp; The printer came off kilter out of the box, tilts from side to side...&nbsp; </p><p>Never can get the bed above 85C, I enclosed it in acrylic, have the glass bed and use hairspray.</p><p>I have the bed flat and extruder calibrated.</p><p>Little prints come out fine, anything over 4 inches, good luck.&nbsp; </p><p>Ive been using ABS, I am planning trying PLA, maybe its the ABS.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[morelli.paul]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1312/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-02-09T04:35:49Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: ABS warping and bed temperature]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>80 centigrade here too. (with fairly thick mirror and hair spray)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[rvanee]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/33/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-01-03T03:47:49Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: ABS warping and bed temperature]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>80c does great on my SD2</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[n2ri]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/795/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-01-03T01:50:06Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: ABS warping and bed temperature]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Question to ask would be, single or multiples in the bot farm.&nbsp; I have an issue with printing full bed items (large single or multi that span the bed), but single pieces about 40-60mm in the center of the bed have no issue. It may be that if you are doing single pieces in the center you may not be having an issue.&nbsp; That with the &quot;seasoned&quot; portion of the bed could give you the best results.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[cckens]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/129/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-10-21T21:04:28Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: ABS warping and bed temperature]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>IanJohnson wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I wonder if the lack of sticking problems in the Solidoodle bot farm is due to printing the same objects over and over.&nbsp; The parts get printed on top of the accumulated residue of many previous identical prints, so it would be a little like using a print bed treated with an abs/acetone mix.</p></blockquote></div><p>Perhaps this, and the parts seem to be fairly reasonable to print in general. They were designed to be printable.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[solijohn]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/7/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-10-21T18:27:49Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: ABS warping and bed temperature]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if the lack of sticking problems in the Solidoodle bot farm is due to printing the same objects over and over.&nbsp; The parts get printed on top of the accumulated residue of many previous identical prints, so it would be a little like using a print bed treated with an abs/acetone mix.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[IanJohnson]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/14/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-10-21T18:25:05Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Gomisan wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>An odd thread that really didnt seem to go anywhere.</p><p>I suspect that heaer limitation may have been reversed, or limited to only a few printers. I&#039;ve not seen anyone here posting about bed temps being limited to that low.</p></blockquote></div><p>We used to have beds that were limited that way. Not anymore. </p><p>For the record, they seemed to work OK. Remember, we use the printers for the parts on the printer - the fail rate on the line would have been unacceptable if there was a massive problem.</p><p>Then again we also print on Kapton with no spray. With black filament.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[solijohn]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-10-21T17:48:43Z</updated>
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