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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Transitioning Between Filaments]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Rocketman wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>michael.t.albers wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>looking at the pics, I think the reason for the split is how thin the plastic is on those sales.&nbsp; One way to prevent this is to run the extruder 5 degrees hotter.</p></blockquote></div><p>I don&#039;t think that is it. I did this print prior at at 1/2 size and it completed without spliting. It was a bit stringy, but the layers stayed together.</p></blockquote></div><p>but it was one half the size = one half the stress, on probably the same cross section of wall. </p><p>also, different colors of filament have different temperature response. your issue might be because you went from a heavily pigmented green to a totally unpigmented natural. just a thought.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[dkeeling728]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-09-19T23:42:01Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Transitioning Between Filaments]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>michael.t.albers wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>looking at the pics, I think the reason for the split is how thin the plastic is on those sales.&nbsp; One way to prevent this is to run the extruder 5 degrees hotter.</p></blockquote></div><p>I don&#039;t think that is it. I did this print prior at at 1/2 size and it completed without spliting. It was a bit stringy, but the layers stayed together.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Rocketman]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-09-07T23:11:27Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Transitioning Between Filaments]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>looking at the pics, I think the reason for the split is how thin the plastic is on those sales.&nbsp; One way to prevent this is to run the extruder 5 degrees hotter.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[michael.t.albers]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-09-07T12:41:21Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Transitioning Between Filaments]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>IanJohnson wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>A lot of people have, but it seems like the kind of prints they do are flat things like signs, keychains, etc.&nbsp; The cracking you got is usually due to a wider temperature difference across the height of the print, so letting the hot air out seems like a good possibility.&nbsp; If you actively heat the inside with something like a small space heater, then that might minimize the effect of opening the enclosure.&nbsp; You could also try printing it without the enclosure.&nbsp; If it is something that would succeed in the open, then you wouldn&#039;t be changing the conditions when you go in to change filament.</p></blockquote></div><p>Cool, thank you. <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-09-07T01:49:40Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Transitioning Between Filaments]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>A lot of people have, but it seems like the kind of prints they do are flat things like signs, keychains, etc.&nbsp; The cracking you got is usually due to a wider temperature difference across the height of the print, so letting the hot air out seems like a good possibility.&nbsp; If you actively heat the inside with something like a small space heater, then that might minimize the effect of opening the enclosure.&nbsp; You could also try printing it without the enclosure.&nbsp; If it is something that would succeed in the open, then you wouldn&#039;t be changing the conditions when you go in to change filament.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[IanJohnson]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/14/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-09-05T04:10:00Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Transitioning Between Filaments]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Tomek wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>well, i think it might be a bit inconclusive.</p><p>I&#039;d consider upping the flowrate by 5-10% on the first layer after a new roll. That way you can squish the filament a bit more down.&nbsp; This might make the connection stronger and ensure any minute error on Z is compensated for. </p><p>But it looks like that piece might already have a lot of warping stress and at that height it was possibly going to peel anyway, since it was getting more thin on a few of the walls. The connection with the filament could be that there is a stress concentration on where you change the filament, and that&#039;s probably going to exist no matter what. There will be *some* discontinuity of strength at the new filament. </p><p>I&#039;m not sure, I wonder if others have more advice or ideas</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>Next time I try to continue on to another filament I&#039;ll try to flow more of it through before continuing to print. Make sure the color change is complete and the temp is back as hot as it was. I hope someone else has had some success between rolls.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Rocketman]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-09-05T03:27:42Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Transitioning Between Filaments]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>well, i think it might be a bit inconclusive.</p><p>I&#039;d consider upping the flowrate by 5-10% on the first layer after a new roll. That way you can squish the filament a bit more down.&nbsp; This might make the connection stronger and ensure any minute error on Z is compensated for. </p><p>But it looks like that piece might already have a lot of warping stress and at that height it was possibly going to peel anyway, since it was getting more thin on a few of the walls. The connection with the filament could be that there is a stress concentration on where you change the filament, and that&#039;s probably going to exist no matter what. There will be *some* discontinuity of strength at the new filament. </p><p>I&#039;m not sure, I wonder if others have more advice or ideas</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Tomek]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-09-04T07:34:06Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Transitioning Between Filaments]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Heartlander wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>As the well-known newbie I offer this for what its worth. But my guess would be maybe the heat loss when you opened the enclosure and changed filaments took a minute to sink in, a thermal flywheel effect. When it did, the colder filament didn&#039;t join well.&nbsp; The layers above it were laid down when the heat came back up and the cooling filament pulled the weak striation apart.</p></blockquote></div><p>If that be the case should I close the enclosure after the new plastic is loaded and let it sit there for 5 minutes or so for the heat to fill back in there? I would of course need to turn the hot-end off as to avoid clogs, but the bed would still heat the area up?</p><p>I was afraid it was an issue with the properties of different colored ABS. I&#039;ve not seen too many examples of successful transitions.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Rocketman]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-09-04T05:19:26Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Transitioning Between Filaments]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>As the well-known newbie I offer this for what its worth. But my guess would be maybe the heat loss when you opened the enclosure and changed filaments took a minute to sink in, a thermal flywheel effect. When it did, the colder filament didn&#039;t join well.&nbsp; The layers above it were laid down when the heat came back up and the cooling filament pulled the weak striation apart.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Heartlander]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2447/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-09-04T04:07:28Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Transitioning Between Filaments]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I was running low on green and was about to run out so I paused the printer, moved the carriage 10 units to the right, pulled the small remaining segment of green out, and fed in some natural white to continue the print. For a while it seemed seamless, but at some point when I was in another room the layers split. Not sure the reason, but the funny thing is it doesn&#039;t appear to have split at the point of change. Any ideas?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Rocketman]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-09-04T01:05:46Z</updated>
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