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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: A definitive way to stop the ooze!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>@AgentSmith: Love the mod, good job.</p><p>@Tomek: I&#039;m just worried about the brass causing more wear than I want on my nozzle flat surface at the tip.&nbsp; Maybe that is a non-issue.&nbsp; If you do it that way, let me know how it works out.&nbsp; I&#039;m probably being over cautious.&nbsp; Although I only had one parking accident, and it was my bad, under manual control when I was installing it, and not thinking, and the brush was still fine.&nbsp; It singes a tiny bit, but is really effective.&nbsp; The plus compared to the wire method I have seen that is similair is that the brush seems to do a better job of dealing with the messier oozing issues where it doubles back on itself, and you have a bunch of loops hanging off the nozzle.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[pastprimitive]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/957/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-08-14T18:46:15Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: A definitive way to stop the ooze!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>pastprimitive wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>@Tomek.&nbsp; I&#039;ve had no luck getting my anchors to stick to the bed consistently.&nbsp; I&#039;ve got the Glass and hairspray thing going on.&nbsp; Besides those issues I really like how convenient it is to pull off filament without touching the hot end, or having to grab a tool.</p><p>Also I&#039;m gearing up to use it as a production tool, creating an auto eject system, etc... I just want it to work 100% of the time with no thought.&nbsp; Plus it keeps cavities from forming on my hotend;)</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>Hey, I agree, there are benefits to this nozzle. At least you recover the part of your print platform where you normally stick an anchor.</p><p>I just don&#039;t like too much the idea of using a brush with meltable tips, in case of accidental parking the nozzle there - how about a soft brass brush?&nbsp; I guess it ups it to a $3 mod instead of a 50 cent mod.&nbsp; </p><p>If you ever have problems with hairspray and glass method, make sure to try the acetone glue treatment.&nbsp; It is too strong of a grip for me usually, and I only use it now when I have a tiny base for a big object.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Tomek]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/192/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-08-14T15:52:40Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: A definitive way to stop the ooze!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Mod done! I used top part of an opened can, and a brand new Tesco everyday value toothbrush for a whopping 49 cents for two toothbrushes <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.nicosoft.it/pictures/toothbrush.jpg" alt="http://www.nicosoft.it/pictures/toothbrush.jpg" /></span></p><p>Should appear less ghetto style and also replacement is quite easily done.</p><p>I tried to glue it in the same position Pastprimitve did but had to modify the code a little bit<br /></p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>G21; set mm units
G28 ;home all axis
G90; set absolute coordinates
G92 E0; reset extruder distance
M104 S195; set extruder temp and start heating
M109 S195; wait for extruder temp to be reached
G1 Z3 F300 ;move platform down 3mm
G1 X208 Y190 F3000 ; move to brush
G1 X208 Y150 F3000 ; move out of brush
G1 X195 Y195 F3000 ; move to back right corner
G1 Z[first_layer_height] F200 ;move platform close to nozzle
;G1 E7; extrude anchor
G1 F3000; center print head
G92 E0; reset extrusion distance</code></pre></div>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[agentsmith]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2336/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-08-14T11:11:26Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: A definitive way to stop the ooze!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>@Tomek.&nbsp; I&#039;ve had no luck getting my anchors to stick to the bed consistently.&nbsp; I&#039;ve got the Glass and hairspray thing going on.&nbsp; Besides those issues I really like how convenient it is to pull off filament without touching the hot end, or having to grab a tool.</p><p>Also I&#039;m gearing up to use it as a production tool, creating an auto eject system, etc... I just want it to work 100% of the time with no thought.&nbsp; Plus it keeps cavities from forming on my hotend;)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[pastprimitive]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/957/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-08-10T16:41:08Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/32516/#p32516</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: A definitive way to stop the ooze!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>So here is the start Gcode I put with it.&nbsp; Just change the coordinates to match the target brush area.</p><p>I used cheap super glue from the local hardware store.&nbsp; None of that fancy gel stuff.&nbsp; Back in my industrial design program I&#039;d go through so much of it to build models etc... The glue of the gods I tell you.&nbsp; Not to mention great to have on the tool bunch when you slice yourself open on accident.&nbsp; That&#039;s how my Dr friend takes care of all his kids cuts that aren&#039;t deep enough for stitches.</p><p>Anyhow the Aluminum on aluminum bonds great enough for this application.&nbsp; Acrylic can be a pain to super glue to.&nbsp; I&#039;ll let you know if it falls off. I&#039;ve ran 4-5 prints so far no problem. </p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>G21; set mm units
G28 ;home all axis
G90; set absolute coordinates
G92 E0; reset extruder distance
M104 S200; set extruder temp and start heating
M109 S200; wait for extruder temp to be reached
G1 Z5 F300 ;move platform down 5mm
G1 X205 Y160 F3000 ; move to brush
G1 X195 Y160 F3000 ; move out of brush
G1 X195 Y195 F3000 ; move to back right corner
G1 Z[first_layer_height] F200 ;move platform close to nozzle
;G1 E7; extrude anchor
G1 F3000; center print head
G92 E0; reset extrusion distance</code></pre></div><p>@Molecular Concept: Whaaat zip ties, and old used 6 year old sons&#039; tooth brushes looks ghetto? j/k.&nbsp; You could always use a new tooth brush, and instead of zip ties, screws through the back to hold it onto the platform, then you could have just the brush part with no stem.&nbsp; But that is also a bigger pain to change out.&nbsp; Zip ties are just so cheap, and old tooth brushes were convenient.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[pastprimitive]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/957/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-08-10T16:38:23Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: A definitive way to stop the ooze!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, I don&#039;t really have oozing problems in the beginning. My code homes the z-axis, which presses my nozzle close to the bed. Then it heats up, and maybe oozes a little, but this just causes a bead on the bed, before it moves to start the print and leaves behind the bead.</p><br /><p>This is similar to what another member does-&nbsp; he/she puts down 7mm in the start as an &quot;anchor&quot; and then leaves that location, leaving behind the blob.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Tomek]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/192/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-08-10T16:31:57Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/32513/#p32513</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: A definitive way to stop the ooze!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>its a great idea i just wish it didnt look so ghetto!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[MolecularConcept]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2211/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-08-10T15:28:30Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: A definitive way to stop the ooze!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>That&#039;s great, I&#039;ll wait for the improved code then <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /><br />In the meantime i&#039;ll have a look on which superglue is best, given that the bed surface heats a lot. Standard cyanoacrylate gave me lots of problems with neodymium magnets on plexiglas...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[agentsmith]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2336/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-08-10T14:41:41Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: A definitive way to stop the ooze!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I used super glue to attach the metal piece.&nbsp; &nbsp;Ditched that code which I need to update the other post.&nbsp; It was working, but then every once I and while it would fail, which needless to say made it unreliable.</p><p>I&#039;ll post the code I used for this one in a little bit.</p><p>Yeah the oozing thing has driven me nuts since day one.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[pastprimitive]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/957/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-08-10T14:06:52Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: A definitive way to stop the ooze!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Cool! I&#039;m quite pissed off about removing the initial ooze before each print run...<br />Are you using the same gcode routine you posted in another topic, or wrote a new one?<br />Did you use the glue to attach the metal piece to the alu bed?</p><p>Thanks!<br />Nick</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[agentsmith]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2336/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-08-10T10:37:21Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/32490/#p32490</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: A definitive way to stop the ooze!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking about using a wire brush, but I decided I didn&#039;t want to run my nozzle over a wire brush with each print. Figured it would decrease my hot end life span.&nbsp; But I think I will have to replace the plastic brush out every so often. While the hot end only comes into contact with it for about a second, I noticed some very slight singing.&nbsp; While I am sure it will get hundred&#039;s of prints of use out of one toothbrush head... eventually I think it will wear out.&nbsp; Hopefully it will match our tooth brush cycling.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[pastprimitive]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/957/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-08-10T05:29:19Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/32477/#p32477</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: A definitive way to stop the ooze!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me of my High School&#039;s Stratasys uPrint.&nbsp; Every so often it would run the extruder heads across a sort of wire brush.&nbsp; I&#039;m definitely gonna do this..</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ITman496]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2694/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2013-08-10T04:07:09Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/32468/#p32468</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[A definitive way to stop the ooze!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Maybe somebody has done this already, if so here is my take on a brush mod to take care of pre-print oozing issues.</p><p>I tried using the edge of the bed to clip the ooze off, and it worked 50% of the time.&nbsp; This so far has worked every time. For the cost of your son&#039;s old tuth brush, a flat piece of something, two zip ties,&nbsp; and 20 minutes of time, you too can be the lucky owner of this mod;)</p><p>Demo Video for any who wish to be bored to tears: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6yJf7T1VDw">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6yJf7T1VDw</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[pastprimitive]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/957/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2013-08-10T03:23:00Z</updated>
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