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	<title type="html"><![CDATA[SoliForum - 3D Printing Community — Selling Solidoodle Pro]]></title>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Selling Solidoodle Pro]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>jon_bondy wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I purchased a used Solidoodle, which arrived a few weeks ago. The box was slightly crushed, but the packing inside was spectacular, solid, both around and inside the printer.&nbsp; However, when I opened the printer door, the printer was totally trashed.&nbsp; The two vertical Z bars had been pulled down far enough that they slipped out of their sheet metal restraints.&nbsp; The entire Z axis system, including the bed, had fallen forward, hard enough to hit the print mechanism.&nbsp; The two side supports for the print mechanism were broken in half, and the vertical threaded rod that handles the Z axis movement was snapped in half.&nbsp; Brutal. Hard to imagine how anyone could have subjected the box to that much force.</p><p>I received my new/purchased Solidoodle just now.&nbsp; The top of the box was also crushed.&nbsp; When the box was opened, the packing material (peanuts) was about 2 inches below the top of the box.&nbsp; I imagine that the box would have survived better had there been more peanuts on top of the printer.&nbsp; The printer was wrapped in 3-4 layers of large bubble wrap.&nbsp; When that was removed, I opened the door with trepidation.&nbsp; The printer appears to be unscathed, although there was essentially no useful packing material inside the printer.&nbsp; The bed was most of the way up (not a good idea, since that increases the load on the Z axis lever arm) and the print head was centered (also not a good idea, since it was well within striking distance of the Z axis rods). There were no tie-downs to attempt to restrict movement of any of the components during shipping.&nbsp; I guess I was just unlucky the first time, and lucky the second time.</p><p>Still, the printer appears to have survived.&nbsp; I have not fired it up, but expect that the mechanical systems are intact.</p></blockquote></div><p>We are glad you received the printer intact!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[solijohn]]></name>
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			<updated>2012-10-24T20:58:36Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Selling Solidoodle Pro]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I purchased a used Solidoodle, which arrived a few weeks ago. The box was slightly crushed, but the packing inside was spectacular, solid, both around and inside the printer.&nbsp; However, when I opened the printer door, the printer was totally trashed.&nbsp; The two vertical Z bars had been pulled down far enough that they slipped out of their sheet metal restraints.&nbsp; The entire Z axis system, including the bed, had fallen forward, hard enough to hit the print mechanism.&nbsp; The two side supports for the print mechanism were broken in half, and the vertical threaded rod that handles the Z axis movement was snapped in half.&nbsp; Brutal. Hard to imagine how anyone could have subjected the box to that much force.</p><p>I received my new/purchased Solidoodle just now.&nbsp; The top of the box was also crushed.&nbsp; When the box was opened, the packing material (peanuts) was about 2 inches below the top of the box.&nbsp; I imagine that the box would have survived better had there been more peanuts on top of the printer.&nbsp; The printer was wrapped in 3-4 layers of large bubble wrap.&nbsp; When that was removed, I opened the door with trepidation.&nbsp; The printer appears to be unscathed, although there was essentially no useful packing material inside the printer.&nbsp; The bed was most of the way up (not a good idea, since that increases the load on the Z axis lever arm) and the print head was centered (also not a good idea, since it was well within striking distance of the Z axis rods). There were no tie-downs to attempt to restrict movement of any of the components during shipping.&nbsp; I guess I was just unlucky the first time, and lucky the second time.</p><p>Still, the printer appears to have survived.&nbsp; I have not fired it up, but expect that the mechanical systems are intact.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[jon_bondy]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/181/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-10-24T17:07:06Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Selling Solidoodle Pro]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>wire10ga wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Since I dont have mine yet, just is all just guessing. But it may be wise to un-bolt the print head from the carriage, wrap it in bubble pack and tape it down against the frame. This should take any loading off the rails and I would think prevent any damage if droped hard. But like I side, it&#039;s just a guess. <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p></blockquote></div><p>This may help. The worst possible damage occurs with the wooden Z axis platform.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[solijohn]]></name>
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			<updated>2012-10-24T16:42:36Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Selling Solidoodle Pro]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Since I dont have mine yet, just is all just guessing. But it may be wise to un-bolt the print head from the carriage, wrap it in bubble pack and tape it down against the frame. This should take any loading off the rails and I would think prevent any damage if droped hard. But like I side, it&#039;s just a guess. <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wire10ga]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/134/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-10-24T12:01:32Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Selling Solidoodle Pro]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The printer has been Sold. Thank you to all who were interested. I will also be following the tips on this post for shipping.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[roypayne]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/269/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-10-24T03:11:08Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Selling Solidoodle Pro]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks high-current-wire-person,&nbsp; (If I had to pick a favorite gauge, I think it would be 10 or 8. Silicone insulation, of course)</p><br /><p> I talked over with the workplace I&#039;m interning at the moment and if I ship it to the company, who will be playing with it a little too, the fedEx costs drop to a more reasonable ~$40. </p><br /><p>So I&#039;ll go with that plan of the higher quality shipper FedEx.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Tomek]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/192/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-10-23T16:24:09Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Selling Solidoodle Pro]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It will be easy to get your insurance money out of FedEx than USPS.&nbsp; Something like this, I would only shop FedEx or UPS with plenty on insurance to cover the purchase price.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wire10ga]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/134/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-10-23T12:36:45Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Selling Solidoodle Pro]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>While those would be ideal.... Fedex is going to be $45 more....Is that really worth it as opposed to packaging the USPS parcel well?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Tomek]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/192/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-10-23T12:34:46Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Selling Solidoodle Pro]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Insure it out the wahzoo as well</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wire10ga]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/134/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-10-23T12:03:30Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Selling Solidoodle Pro]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>send fedex and have it sent as fragile glass</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Manx]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/168/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-10-23T03:36:51Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Selling Solidoodle Pro]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The most common breakage is the slides on the left and right.&nbsp; I would recommend taping them to the frame so that their weight and the extruder&#039;s weight is supported if the printer gets dropped straight down.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[IanJohnson]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/14/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-10-23T00:32:54Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Selling Solidoodle Pro]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>As the potential buyer, I truly appreciate that advice. Oh ye gods of shipping, please be gentle. </p><p>I have noticed that USPS will cost me ~28 to ship from CA, while Fedex/UPS will cost $67 and be a day or two faster. Does anyone have experience knowing if the latter is worth it?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Tomek]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/192/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-10-23T00:20:23Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Selling Solidoodle Pro]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>If you do need to ship it, please consider the following.&nbsp; I purchased a used printer, and UPS completely destroyed it.&nbsp; No news yet as to whether UPS will cover the damage.&nbsp; Word from Solidoodle is that UPS rarely pays up, so pack it well.</p><p>The failure mode was that when the printer was dropped, the weight of the bed pulled the two vertical Z rods out of the sheet metal at the top, causing them to fall forward and strike the extruder, breaking both of the side mounts, and snapping off the threaded Z rod near the base.&nbsp; The bed was most of the way up, so there was a lot of weight cantilevered out held up by the Z rods. You need to try to reduce the load on the Z rods and get the extruder out of the way.&nbsp; To that end, </p><p>1) place the bed at the bottom, so that there is as little weight hanging off of the vertical bars as possible.&nbsp; You probably can do this by hand if necessary, rotating the threaded rod. Make sure there is enough packing material under the bed so that it cannot move down if the printer is dropped.&nbsp; It is the weight of the bed that pulls the Z rods out of the sheet metal.</p><p>2) place the extruder as far towards the front as you can, so that the Z rods cannot hit the extruder if they do come loose</p><p>3) pack the inside so that the Z rods cannot move towards the front of the printer.&nbsp; If possible, place a piece of stiff foam or cardboard along the top to keep the Z rods in place.&nbsp; The foam/cardboard should go from the front of the printer all the way back to the Z rods, as one stiff piece.&nbsp; Keep the foam/cardboard in place by filling the cavity below it with packing material.</p><p>Perhaps others on this forum will have additional recommendations.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[jon_bondy]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/181/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-10-23T00:13:41Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Ooh, cool. </p><p>Thanks</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Tomek]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/192/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-10-22T17:45:59Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Selling Solidoodle Pro]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Just for the record, the forum automatically encodes posted email addresses to prevent spam harvesting.</p><p>(You can look at the page source if you like to confirm <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> )</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Brad]]></name>
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			<updated>2012-10-22T17:04:58Z</updated>
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