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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: extrusion clumps + sliding filament]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>hi Rex3D, I had similar problem before, and I turn to PLA, works pretty well for me.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ecka]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1235/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-06-09T16:16:31Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: extrusion clumps + sliding filament]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Krythis wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Hairspray never worked well for me either. I didn&#039;t try the scentless Aquanet everyone uses, instead I went right to ABS glue and it worked wonders.</p></blockquote></div><p>I didn&#039;t even realize that I use aqua net until you mentioned something. I think I just bought a value size extra hold hair spray. ha... what are the chances?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[2n2r5]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1906/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-06-05T04:34:01Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: extrusion clumps + sliding filament]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hairspray never worked well for me either. I didn&#039;t try the scentless Aquanet everyone uses, instead I went right to ABS glue and it worked wonders.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Krythis]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1016/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-06-04T23:09:05Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: extrusion clumps + sliding filament]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The glass should still have hairspray on it, the gunkier the better.&nbsp; I never clean my glass, I feel that the more it gets &quot;seasoned&quot; with coats of hairspray and abs residue from previous prints, the better.</p><p>The settings for extrusion width are under Advanced in the print settings tab.&nbsp; Also look under Speed of course for first layer speed.&nbsp; You can also start with a lot of squish by setting the Z tab so that the bed touches the nozzle.&nbsp; Keep hitting home and adjusting the screw up until you see the hotend move slightly when the bed hits home at stops. Then turn the screw back down maybe a quarter turn.&nbsp; This should pretty much smear the plastic onto the bed.&nbsp; If that sticks, then add another quarter turn until the layer looks flattened, but no quite smeared.</p><p>If that doesn&#039;t work, then try ABS glue.&nbsp; Extrude a bunch of plastic into air and dissolve the threads into a little acetone.&nbsp; The mix should be pretty thin, but with enough plastic that after you paint it onto the glass you can see a film of ABS left behind.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[IanJohnson]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/14/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-06-04T18:46:09Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: extrusion clumps + sliding filament]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I noticed you said you&#039;re cleaning your glass with Windex, no problem with that, but are you spraying it with hairspray after you clean it? I&#039;m not sure how well the ABS sticks to bare glass...</p><p>TiM</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[mr_tim34]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/891/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-06-04T18:40:48Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: extrusion clumps + sliding filament]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Rex3D wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>to: Ian Johnson</p><p>Ian Johnson QUOTE: &quot;Software things you can try are turning up the first layer extrusion width to 150%-200% (similar to squishing with the Z tab), running the first layer hotter, and running it slower.&quot;</p><p>Sorry for my noob question Ian, but where on Repetier/SLIC3R to i adjust the extrusion width? I just want to be absolutely certain so i don&#039;t mess up 2n2r5&#039;s settings for me. Also given my printer specs do you think his settings are suitable for my situation? Not doubting 2n2r5, just want a second opinion.</p><p>Cheers.</p></blockquote></div><p>Rex. Check the extrusion temps. I have a new hot end and I bumped mine well above normal temps. I think I sent you my default for the solidoodle hot end.</p><p>Edit: looks like you said you already did this. </p><p>Don&#039;t worry about second guessing me. It won&#039;t hurt my feelings one bit. You will find a lot of people will have advice and sometimes what works for you is completely different from what works for others.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[2n2r5]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1906/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-06-04T18:29:29Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: extrusion clumps + sliding filament]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>So I have attempted to print using 2n2r5&#039;s SLIC3R settings and taken Ian&#039;s advice and adjusted the z-tab offset according to the video: <a href="http://wiki.solidoodle.com/first-layers-setting-the-z-offset">http://wiki.solidoodle.com/first-layers … e-z-offset</a> </p><p>These are my results to date: </p><p>I am still unable to get the filament to stick to the print-bed with:<br />- extruder temperatures of 195-205C<br />- print_bed temperatures of 92-93C<br />- immaculate clean glass<br />- with enclosure (link below to image of it)</p><p>I have also posted links to images of:<br />- my z-tab offset from extruder to bed just before the job began<br />- my z-tab offset from extruder to bed when it started to clump</p><p><a href="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/189/bed2extruderdistance.jpg/">http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/18 … tance.jpg/</a></p><p><a href="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/clumpc.jpg/">http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/clumpc.jpg/</a></p><p><a href="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/694/printercase.jpg/">http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/69 … rcase.jpg/</a></p><br /><p>Any advice on what to do next would be much appreciated. Also comments on whether i should follow this up with the manufacturer or not? And if so which way is the best way recommended? Cheers</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Rex3D]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-06-04T18:20:13Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>10</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-06-04T18:15:50Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>9</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-06-04T18:15:45Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>8</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Rex3D]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-06-04T18:15:41Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>7</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Rex3D]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-06-04T18:15:34Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: extrusion clumps + sliding filament]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>to: Ian Johnson</p><p>Ian Johnson QUOTE: &quot;Software things you can try are turning up the first layer extrusion width to 150%-200% (similar to squishing with the Z tab), running the first layer hotter, and running it slower.&quot;</p><p>Sorry for my noob question Ian, but where on Repetier/SLIC3R to i adjust the extrusion width? I just want to be absolutely certain so i don&#039;t mess up 2n2r5&#039;s settings for me. Also given my printer specs do you think his settings are suitable for my situation? Not doubting 2n2r5, just want a second opinion.</p><p>Cheers.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Rex3D]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2052/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-06-01T09:49:21Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: extrusion clumps + sliding filament]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for everyone&#039;s advice thus far, i will keep everyone updated on my findings. </p><p>reply to: 2n2r5</p><p>Thanks for the SLIC3R config.ini file. *NOTE: for those who don&#039;t know how to execute the .ini file in SLIC3R: </p><p>file &gt; Load config... &gt; select 2n2r5_config.ini &gt; Open</p><p>I have changed the nozzle diametre to 0.35 in SLIC3R and have thoroughly wiped down my glass with Windex. I am assuming that the settings are suitable for ABS 1.75mm. I am about to test your settings out and will post results and images or image links shortly. <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>-----------------------------------------------------------------</p><p>reply to: ronsii</p><p>I am using all Solidoodle supplied ABS 1.75mm filament which i ordered with my printer. urls are a good idea, i shall do that if it takes too long for 10 posts. </p><p>---------------------------------------------------------------</p><p>reply to: Ian Johnson </p><p>Thankyou for the clarification. I did the &#039;z-tab home adjustment&#039;, with the metro card height. I think i got the two mixed up. Because i could not test my bed level because the filament would not stick to the bed in the first place. I have just adjusted the z-tab home distance to a &#039;metrocard&#039; distance between the bed and the extruder. </p><p>I was wondering if there is a difference between the &#039;z-tab home&#039; distance and the &#039;printing distance&#039; between the bed and nozzle? -----------&gt; because the &#039;printing distance&#039; seems to be further away than that of a &#039;z-tab home&#039; distance.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Rex3D]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2052/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-06-01T09:43:00Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: extrusion clumps + sliding filament]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The metro card thing is just for leveling the bed.&nbsp; The distance to the extruder is based on what the first layer looks like, and how squished it is- <a href="http://wiki.solidoodle.com/first-layers-setting-the-z-offset">http://wiki.solidoodle.com/first-layers … e-z-offset</a></p><p>Software things you can try are turning up the first layer extrusion width to 150%-200% (similar to squishing with the Z tab), running the first layer hotter, and running it slower.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[IanJohnson]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-05-31T04:22:01Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: extrusion clumps + sliding filament]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>One other question... where is the filament from?</p><p>And if you could post some pics of what it is doing that would be great <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> you will have to get 10 posts before the forum will let you attach pics but you can hide url&#039;s in the post if you upload some pics to a pic site.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ronsii]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-05-31T03:32:27Z</updated>
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