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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: besides backlash - Z-band fixed from LH miscalculate...read careful.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I also thought about this, saw no difference.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[frozensoda]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-05-14T09:43:33Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: besides backlash - Z-band fixed from LH miscalculate...read careful.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Still skeptical about this... There were at least a couple of other threads on the topic, and I&#039;m not convinced neither from a theoretical nor from a practical point of view (I tried at home and saw no difference in banding)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Rincewind]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-05-14T08:03:57Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: besides backlash - Z-band fixed from LH miscalculate...read careful.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>hoho... witll try that... thanks</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ysb]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-05-13T16:47:38Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[besides backlash - Z-band fixed from LH miscalculate...read careful.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>sorry my english is bad and Can&#039;t post links but you can figure out.&nbsp; calculator -josefprusa - cz -- is source...this work to fix bands.&nbsp; just have ab nut with spring and this no band at all.&nbsp; I have no camera or I would post compare photographs.</p><br /><p><strong>Use Optimal layer height for your Z axis not a simple number e.g. .1796 or .2046 <span class="bbu">not</span> .20 in slicer setting.</strong></p><p>Joseph Prusa&#039;s tool will help you to select layer height in a way, that Z axis moves only by full step increments. Z axis isn&#039;t usually enabled during inactivity. If the axis is disabled during micro-step, axis jumps to the closest full step and introduce error. This effect is occurring to some extent even while leaving the Z axis motors enabled. This is most useful to machines with imperial leadscrews but also for unusual layer heights with metric leadscrews.<br />__________________________________________________________________________________________________<br />Motor step angle 1.8 (200 per revolve)</p><p>Leadscrew pitch 1.41111 mm/revolution </p><p>Presets 5/16 1.44 imperial <br />Desired layer height <br />.3 mm<br />Z axis gear ratio 1:1<br /> :&nbsp; <br />Motor : Leadscrew (1:1 for direct drive - Prusa)<br />Layer height&nbsp; &nbsp; Error over 10cm&nbsp; &nbsp; Number of steps&nbsp; &nbsp; Step length<br />0.2963&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 0mm&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;42&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;0.00705555mm<br />0.3&nbsp; &nbsp; +1.1217541105598867mm&nbsp; &nbsp; 42.523033309709426&nbsp; &nbsp; 0.00705555mm<br />0.3034&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 0mm&nbsp; &nbsp; 43&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;0.00705555mm<br />__________________________________________________________________________________________________</p><p>Desired layer height<br />.2 mm<br /> :&nbsp; <br />Motor : Leadscrew (1:1 for direct drive - Prusa)<br />Layer height&nbsp; &nbsp; Error over 10cm&nbsp; &nbsp; Number of steps&nbsp; &nbsp; Step length<br />0.1976&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;0mm&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 28&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; 0.00705555mm<br />0.2&nbsp; &nbsp; -1.2300958894401177mm&nbsp; &nbsp; 28.34868887313962&nbsp; &nbsp; 0.00705555mm<br />0.2046&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;0mm&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;29&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;0.00705555mm</p><p>__________________________________________________________________________________________________</p><p>Desired layer height<br />.1 mm<br /> :&nbsp; <br />Motor : Leadscrew (1:1 for direct drive - Prusa)<br />Layer height&nbsp; &nbsp; Error over 10cm&nbsp; &nbsp; Number of steps&nbsp; &nbsp; Step length<br />0.09878&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 0mm&nbsp; &nbsp; 14&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 0.00705555mm<br />0.1&nbsp; &nbsp; -1.2300958894401177mm&nbsp; &nbsp; 14.17434443656981&nbsp; &nbsp; 0.00705555mm<br />0.1058&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 0mm&nbsp; &nbsp; 15&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;0.00705555mm</p><p>__________________________________________________________________________________________________</p><p>Desired layer height<br />.05 mm</p><p> :&nbsp; <br />Motor : Leadscrew (1:1 for direct drive - Prusa)<br />Layer height&nbsp; &nbsp; Error over 10cm&nbsp; &nbsp; Number of steps&nbsp; &nbsp; Step length<br />0.04939&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;0mm&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;7&nbsp; &nbsp; 0.00705555mm<br />0.05&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;-1.2300958894401177mm&nbsp; &nbsp; 7.087172218284905&nbsp; &nbsp; 0.00705555mm<br />0.05644&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 0mm&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 8&nbsp; &nbsp; 0.00705555mm<br />__________________________________________________________________________________________________</p><p>Banding due to calculate error gone.&nbsp; Backlash&nbsp; can be deal with w/ AB or no sloppiness nut (1/4 inch rod (ok but M5, M6, M8) -- no error without special value for z height.&nbsp; ty ahead of time for thx and have nice day</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-05-13T15:19:58Z</updated>
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