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	<updated>2013-06-11T09:56:45Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Bed heater seems to have failed]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Nice print.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Gordym]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/46/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-06-11T09:56:45Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Bed heater seems to have failed]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Heated print bed arrived today as promised on Friday.&nbsp; It&#039;s installed and calibrated and working.&nbsp; My first try at a print worked.&nbsp; Back in business!&nbsp; Total downtime: one month and one day.<br /><a href="http://www.thingiverse.com/make:39942"><span class="postimg"><img src="http://thingiverse-production.s3.amazonaws.com/renders/e3/03/9a/27/0c/10645_669635593050789_1465042497_n_preview_featured.jpg" alt="http://thingiverse-production.s3.amazonaws.com/renders/e3/03/9a/27/0c/10645_669635593050789_1465042497_n_preview_featured.jpg" /></span></a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Hunter Green]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1356/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-06-10T23:04:12Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/25930/#p25930</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Bed heater seems to have failed]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.soliforum.com/post/25631/#p25631" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>John got in touch with me in the chat room and told me my order had gone down to shipping a few times and gotten lost there.&nbsp; He then went to shipping to &quot;stand in front of the guy until your box went out&quot; or something like that.&nbsp; Also said he talked to one of the managers about the problem.&nbsp; As a result, I now have a tracking number and an expected delivery date of Monday.&nbsp; That&#039;ll put it one month and one day past the failure.&nbsp; Here&#039;s hoping all goes well when it finally arrives.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Hunter Green]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1356/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-06-08T11:18:13Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/25631/#p25631</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Bed heater seems to have failed]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>New update: three weeks after it&#039;ll go out &quot;immediately&quot;, it &quot;should ship by the end of the week&quot;.&nbsp; I think that&#039;s the fourth estimate I&#039;ve gotten off when this will happen.&nbsp; Based on how well the first three turned out, and how imprecise the fourth one is, it and a quarter will buy you a gumball.</p><p>I&#039;m also thinking about the QU-BD and Lawsy&#039;s kit.&nbsp; Anyone else out there able to print the bed mounting kit and ship it to me at a reasonable price?&nbsp; I&#039;m anxious about the power supply upgrade step -- it&#039;s a little outside my comfort zone.&nbsp; But as I close in on a full month of downtime to replace a single part that died after only a couple of weeks of use, maybe it&#039;s time to take the leap.&nbsp; Doesn&#039;t seem like I can count on Solidoodle, anyway.</p><p>Edit: Belay that -- since they had me send the whole bed back, it&#039;s not an option anyway.&nbsp; At least that saves me agonizing over how much of Lawsy&#039;s mod looks beyond my comfort zone.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Hunter Green]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1356/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-06-05T14:51:21Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/25370/#p25370</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Bed heater seems to have failed]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Still no print bed.&nbsp; Three weeks since failure, and fifteen days since they had the failed part (and said it would go out immediately).&nbsp; Friday, Josh told me it would go out priority mail on Friday or at the latest Tuesday.&nbsp; All I really want is a real idea of what to expect -- I&#039;d&#039;ve been happier with a &quot;it&#039;ll take three weeks&quot; if it did, than &quot;probably in a few days&quot; when it didn&#039;t.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Hunter Green]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1356/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-05-31T00:18:49Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/24638/#p24638</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Bed heater seems to have failed]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>My SD3 bed heater just crapped out too last night.&nbsp; I sent an email to support and will also now wait for a response.</p><p>In the mean time I think I am just going to a QU-BD and see if I can get Lawsy&#039;s bed mounting kit and spacer printed out somehow.</p><p>The amount of down time is really starting to rack up due to all these hardware failures.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[rjp350z]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/644/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-05-25T14:27:32Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/24048/#p24048</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Bed heater seems to have failed]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.soliforum.com/post/24037/#p24037" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Got an email saying they were waiting for the part &quot;to be produced&quot; and then got told in IRC that whoever wrote that was wrong and they have them and I have just been &quot;in the queue&quot; to have it shipped for more than a week now.&nbsp; This after I had been assured explicitly it would go out the moment as they got the defective part.&nbsp; But there was some assurance that it either went out yesterday, or will go out on Tuesday, by priority mail.</p><p>It&#039;s great that it&#039;s only costing me the $14 I spent on postage (that was a waste, paying that much for two-day mail for a process that&#039;s going to end up taking three weeks), but I wish they&#039;d&#039;ve given me a more realistic idea of what to expect, instead of explicitly misleading me.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Hunter Green]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1356/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-05-25T13:17:47Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/24037/#p24037</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Bed heater seems to have failed]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It could take a while to get from what I have seen from others needing spare bits.... In the mean time have you got any PLA on hand? I ask this because you don&#039;t need a heated bed to print on just a flat surface with some blue masking tape <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> plus this would give you an opportunity to experience the joys of PLA printing.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ronsii]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/296/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-05-24T16:47:55Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Bed heater seems to have failed]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Still no replacement, they&#039;ve had it more than a week now.&nbsp; Getting anxious.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Hunter Green]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1356/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-05-24T12:30:36Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/23911/#p23911</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Bed heater seems to have failed]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.soliforum.com/post/22469/#p22469" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>SD support says that&#039;s a failed bed and wants to replace it.</p><p>All this time I&#039;ve been worried about how hard it would be to replace... if I had realized that the &quot;leveling&quot; screws are actually all that holds the bed on, I would have looked at this ages ago.&nbsp; So now I have the bed off.</p><p>Just waiting to hear about whether they want me to send the whole assembly (insulation, heating element, aluminum plate, and Kapton), or to peel them apart.&nbsp; The heating bed looks to be stuck on that aluminum plate pretty darned hard, and I wonder if I can remove it without damaging it.&nbsp; Which wouldn&#039;t matter since it&#039;s broken, except Solidoodle intends to return it for a refund from their supplier, and if it&#039;s got gouges in it from me manhandling it, that might be harder for them.</p><p>Hope I get an answer in time to make today&#039;s mail collection, though that&#039;s not far off.&nbsp; I&#039;m so impatient because I have like five designs queued up to print!</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Hunter Green]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1356/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-05-11T15:18:07Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/22469/#p22469</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Bed heater seems to have failed]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The resistance of the bed was around 57K ohm.&nbsp; For comparison, the thermistor was around 117K ohm at room temperature.&nbsp; I emailed that to Support but it must have missed them leaving for the day as I haven&#039;t heard back.</p><p>The 12V measurement was at the point where the power supply goes into the circuit board.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Hunter Green]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1356/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-05-11T13:00:57Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/22464/#p22464</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Bed heater seems to have failed]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.soliforum.com/post/22433/#p22433" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I second tech supports suggestion of checking the resistance of the bed heater. It could be as simple as a bad wire from to the heater. That would be an easy fix. When you checked the 12V line did you check it at the back of the printer or at the heater? </p><p>TiM</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[mr_tim34]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/891/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-05-11T01:01:02Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/22433/#p22433</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Bed heater seems to have failed]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Okay, that makes a lot more sense about the MDF.</p><p>And reassuring about the soldering too, but I&#039;m going to hold off to see what Solidoodle Support recommends after I can get home and test the resistance on the heating element before I dig any deeper into this approach.</p><p>But even if I don&#039;t do the heating bed replacement mod now, I greatly appreciate the explanation about it, and I&#039;ll keep it in mind for some later point, after I &quot;level up&quot; a few more times <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>I do need to get around to learning what extruder settings to use for PLA and how to switch between it and ABS without making a huge mess of both, but that&#039;s also something that can wait a bit.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Hunter Green]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1356/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-05-10T15:22:51Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/22405/#p22405</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Bed heater seems to have failed]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.soliforum.com/post/22402/#p22402" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I should have explained better - I used the MDF as a replacement for the aluminium plate. That way I could chisel a pocket to fit the bulge in the QU-BD bed without touching my existing aluminium bed. </p><p>I then had a piece of glass clipped to the top.. then I printed the bed mods, and added them to a new much thinner piece of MDF and used that as a bed base.</p><p>And you can use PLA on kapton or blue painters tape btw - just use a cold bed or only heat it to 60°C <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>EDIT; as an aside, you&#039;d probably be safe doing the soldering on something like a Dell PSU... they are designed for high heat and high current where you are soldering... you could probably use a Gas Axe to solder it and still not harm the damn things ! <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> But I totally get your trepidation none the less! Just wanted to include that you&#039;d actually have little chance of killing something due to heat on a heavy duty power supply...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[adrian]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/663/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-05-10T15:07:13Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/22402/#p22402</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Bed heater seems to have failed]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I skimmed it and I think it may be a bit deeper than I want to try to get right now.&nbsp; The soldering for the power supply makes me anxious even if it&#039;s on the other side because, while I can solder, I don&#039;t have a delicate hand with it, and I&#039;m anxious about the heat propagating through to more heat-sensitive components.&nbsp; Quicker heat-up would be nice, and maybe once the printer is up and running I&#039;ll print those bed parts and stash them for a future day, but after I&#039;m more familiar with all this.</p><p>I&#039;m curious about your comment about using MDF though.&nbsp; You mean you use a piece of MDF as an unheated print bed instead of the glass, and you&#039;re able to print ABS on it well enough to print lawsy&#039;s bed mods?&nbsp; This is the first I&#039;ve heard of using MDF at all.&nbsp; When you commented about printing temporarily, what flashed into my mind was &quot;maybe that&#039;d be the time to finally experiment with printing PLA&quot;, not the idea of using neither Kapton nor glass for the bed.&nbsp; Time to search the forum for yet another new topic!</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Hunter Green]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1356/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-05-10T15:04:17Z</updated>
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