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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: magic smoke on ramps...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>for one with interrest in.. i replace the faulty mosfet with a mosfet IRLB8743 .. seem to be a good choice (even for our base sanguinololu)</p><p>30V (i work with a 12v power supply, so it&#039;s good)<br />RDS : 0.0032</p><p>so.. (lets do math) 11.5A^2*0.0032 .... so 0.43W ....Tj=25 ... 11 degC above ambient... no bad <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> ... the heatskink is not necessary here.. but i will put a little fan (to cool all the board) for my peace of mind..</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ysb]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-04-17T18:00:40Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: magic smoke on ramps...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>thanks for you explication.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ysb]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-04-15T14:01:32Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: magic smoke on ramps...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>ysb wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>but i think that they can do the job, any advice ?</p></blockquote></div><p>Again, read up on theta_ja and Rds.</p><p>The qu-bd bed pulls 11.5A. P=I^2*R. If Rds is 0.055, then that&#039;s 7.27w. With a theta_ja of 62.5C/W, that means the junction temperature will be at 62.5*7.27 = 454C above ambient. No, the MOSFET will not last long at that temperature. The maximum junction temperature is 175C.</p><p>You either need a heatsink (and calculate it&#039;s C/W, add it to the theta_jc value) or a better MOSFET. The STP55NF06L is 0.014ohms, so 1.85W, or 115C over ambient, which is still under the 175C spec - though a heatsink/fan would still be a good idea here.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[elmoret]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-04-15T00:25:37Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: magic smoke on ramps...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>arf....</p><p>the STP55NF06L&nbsp; is a N-CHANNEL 60V - 0.014 OHM - 55A </p><p>and mine is a 100v - 5.5a - 0.8 ohm ...</p><p>damn...</p><p>edit : do you think i can change the 3 mosfets IRF512 by 3 IRF 540 N-Channel Mosfet, 100V, 33A&nbsp; with RDS of 0.055 (i can source some on a store near me) </p><p>they are as not good as the STP55NF06L but i think that they can do the job, any advice ?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ysb]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-04-14T23:01:50Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>ysb wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>hem.. i use a qu-bd silicon pad 6x6...&nbsp; i thought that the ramps can drive this hotbed without problem no?</p><p><a href="http://store.qu-bd.com/product.php?id_product=36">http://store.qu-bd.com/product.php?id_product=36</a></p><p>they said on the site that it work out of the box with ramps</p></blockquote></div><p>RAMPS 1.4 calls for a STP55NF06L, which has a much lower RDS. Sounds like you bought a Chinese knockoff.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[elmoret]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-04-14T22:32:02Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>hem.. i use a qu-bd silicon pad 6x6...&nbsp; i thought that the ramps can drive this hotbed without problem no?</p><p><a href="http://store.qu-bd.com/product.php?id_product=36">http://store.qu-bd.com/product.php?id_product=36</a></p><p>they said on the site that it work out of the box with ramps</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ysb]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-04-14T22:10:32Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>elmoret wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>What heated bed are you using?</p></blockquote></div><p>Rds on that MOSFET is. 0.5 ohms. P=I^2*R, so if its a 50watt bed, that&#039;s about 8w dissipated in the MOSFET. That&#039;s a tremendous amount for a TO-220 package without additional cooling. </p><p>Read about Rds and theta_ja, and choose a MOSFET according to your needs.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[elmoret]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-04-14T21:53:54Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>What heated bed are you using?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-04-14T21:49:37Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>hi all.. it&#039;s my turn to ask for help...</p><p>this week-en, i decided to changed my sanguinololu for a arduino+ramps1.4...</p><p>i triple check the wiring but it seems that i do something wrong . when i tested the hotbed, some magic smoke appear on my arduino.. i switch all in emergency and check the board...</p><p>the arduino seem ok, and the ramps board also... i tested all the functions all seems to work apart the hotbed that stay on whatetever i do.. </p><p>i look more closely and see that one of the 3 mosfets (the one that control the hotbed.. it&#039;s logic that this one burn if i do a shot-circuit somewhere) is a bit burned..</p><p>i want to change it as it seems to be the only problem on the board: it&#039;s a IRF512 N-Channel Power MOSFETs/ 5.5 A/ 60-100V.</p><p>as i&#039;m not a specialist, someone can help me to find an equivalent mosfet as the ifr512 seem to be a bit old ?</p><p>ty <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ysb]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-04-14T21:43:28Z</updated>
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