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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: z banding]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Filastruder.com is the US distributor for E3d.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2291/</uri>
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			<updated>2019-03-13T13:22:08Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>bmlbytes wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>lt72884 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Oh man. i hate when printers go down. Im trying to save money for a new nozzle but its like $70 because you cant JUST replace the nozzle haha</p></blockquote></div><p>Print one of these: <a href="https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1724209">https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1724209</a><br />And one of these: <a href="https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:839620">https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:839620</a></p><p>Buy one of these (Bowden, 12v): <a href="https://e3d-online.com/lite6-hotend">https://e3d-online.com/lite6-hotend</a><br />Or preferably one of these (Bowden, 12v): <a href="https://e3d-online.com/v6-all-metal-hotend">https://e3d-online.com/v6-all-metal-hotend</a></p><p>You can wire up the new hotend to the wires where the old ones were, and you will be back up and running. The circuit board will need to be moved somewhere else, but that shouldn&#039;t be too difficult as long as everything still wires up the same. </p><p>After you do this setup, you can replace just the nozzle if it wears out again.</p></blockquote></div><p>thats awesome. do they sell the hotends in US dollars? everything seemed to be in another currency?</p><p>thanks for posting that for me. This might be a good option for me</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[lt72884]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/18962/</uri>
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			<updated>2019-03-13T06:36:33Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>lt72884 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Oh man. i hate when printers go down. Im trying to save money for a new nozzle but its like $70 because you cant JUST replace the nozzle haha</p></blockquote></div><p>Print one of these: <a href="https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1724209">https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1724209</a><br />And one of these: <a href="https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:839620">https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:839620</a></p><p>Buy one of these (Bowden, 12v): <a href="https://e3d-online.com/lite6-hotend">https://e3d-online.com/lite6-hotend</a><br />Or preferably one of these (Bowden, 12v): <a href="https://e3d-online.com/v6-all-metal-hotend">https://e3d-online.com/v6-all-metal-hotend</a></p><p>You can wire up the new hotend to the wires where the old ones were, and you will be back up and running. The circuit board will need to be moved somewhere else, but that shouldn&#039;t be too difficult as long as everything still wires up the same. </p><p>After you do this setup, you can replace just the nozzle if it wears out again.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[bmlbytes]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/18618/</uri>
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			<updated>2019-03-11T17:38:37Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: z banding]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Oh man. i hate when printers go down. Im trying to save money for a new nozzle but its like $70 because you cant JUST replace the nozzle haha</p><p>thanks</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[lt72884]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/18962/</uri>
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			<updated>2019-03-11T17:03:56Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>lt72884 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>bump:</p><p>any one try the stl file</p></blockquote></div><p>My printer went down. i just got the parts to repair it and will work on it this weekend. I will try your stl once I get my machine up and running.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[carl_m1968]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/7731/</uri>
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			<updated>2019-03-09T20:56:00Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>bump:</p><p>any one try the stl file</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[lt72884]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/18962/</uri>
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			<updated>2019-03-09T17:29:28Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>ok, here is the file. thanks again:) I am using teh stock software. I have not branched out to anything else yet until i get the ft5 or i3, which i am way excited for. hopefully 6 months or less i will have one of those two</p><p><a href="http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=50750212874536723013">http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?fi … 4536723013</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[lt72884]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/18962/</uri>
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			<updated>2019-02-21T06:00:33Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>lt72884 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Ok, so after trying to set extrusion ration to 98%, first layer height to 0.30. the print comes out the same. Onall 3 prints with different settings, its only that one side with the issue. the opposite is even, no embossing or overhang. the other two sides are smooth as well. </p><p>I am using the hatchbox grey filament. not the xyz stuff. </p><p>I still think its over extruding. Or its the mere fact that this is a 200$ printer. Hence why i am saving money for a new folgertech i3 or ft5r2</p><p>thanks</p><p>EDIT:</p><p>not sure if i mentioned this but the printer is 3-4 years of age and its the original nozzle..</p></blockquote></div><p>Share your STL file so we can try it and see what we get.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[carl_m1968]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/7731/</uri>
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			<updated>2019-02-20T20:29:46Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Ok, so after trying to set extrusion ration to 98%, first layer height to 0.30. the print comes out the same. Onall 3 prints with different settings, its only that one side with the issue. the opposite is even, no embossing or overhang. the other two sides are smooth as well. </p><p>I am using the hatchbox grey filament. not the xyz stuff. </p><p>I still think its over extruding. Or its the mere fact that this is a 200$ printer. Hence why i am saving money for a new folgertech i3 or ft5r2</p><p>thanks</p><p>EDIT:</p><p>not sure if i mentioned this but the printer is 3-4 years of age and its the original nozzle..</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[lt72884]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/18962/</uri>
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			<updated>2019-02-20T20:27:14Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: z banding]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Another thing to examine from my experience is the condition of the banding on opposite sides of the print. If a layer (or layers) is offset in one direction due to horizontal shifting of the bed, then the layers would be more of a complete zig-zag...on one side it would be hanging over proud and on the opposite side it would appear embossed.</p><p>If the banding is uniform on both sides, than over-extrusion or heat cycling is more likely the cause.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[IronMan]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/131/</uri>
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			<updated>2019-02-19T15:11:56Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>carl_m1968 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Two things I would change. Drop your first layer height to the same as all the other layers. It gets squished more due to your bed to nozzle clearance. I would also lower your extrusion ratio on both settings to 98 or lower. Just play with this value and reduce by two and see what looks best. Since you can&#039;t calibrate the steps per mm on the extruder of an XYZ machine this extrusion ratio setting is your only means to tune it.</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>Awesome!! i will try that later today when i am home from work:) </p><p>Thank you much for the advice and help. Ill update with pics.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[lt72884]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/18962/</uri>
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			<updated>2019-02-18T16:44:27Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: z banding]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Two things I would change. Drop your first layer height to the same as all the other layers. It gets squished more due to your bed to nozzle clearance. I would also lower your extrusion ratio on both settings to 98 or lower. Just play with this value and reduce by two and see what looks best. Since you can&#039;t calibrate the steps per mm on the extruder of an XYZ machine this extrusion ratio setting is your only means to tune it.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[carl_m1968]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/7731/</uri>
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			<updated>2019-02-18T12:44:30Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: z banding]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Forgive, sometimes i just forget to add those basic things. I tell you, thermodynamics is a brain killer class. </p><p>here are my settings from xyzprint software:<br /><span class="postimg"><img src="http://soliforum.com/i/?JReuZ31.png" alt="http://soliforum.com/i/?JReuZ31.png" /></span></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[lt72884]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/18962/</uri>
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			<updated>2019-02-18T05:03:36Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>lt72884 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Ok, so i made my own 25mm solid block, and I do not get that issue, however, i get a different issue haha. Notice on the bottom edge, the extrisuon, as it finishes, is super thick and overlaps the other shell. All 3 faces of the block are smooth except the one with the overlap, its jagged all the way up. Thanks for looking. Could be my filament, could be something else.</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://soliforum.com/i/?YgJKfSu.jpg" alt="http://soliforum.com/i/?YgJKfSu.jpg" /></span><br /><span class="postimg"><img src="http://soliforum.com/i/?GfSUODE.jpg" alt="http://soliforum.com/i/?GfSUODE.jpg" /></span></p></blockquote></div><br /><p>Can&#039;t tell you much without seeing all your settings.. Looks like over extrusion still but if you have a stock XYZ and XYZ software there is not much you can do.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[carl_m1968]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/7731/</uri>
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			<updated>2019-02-18T02:21:23Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Ok, so i made my own 25mm solid block, and I do not get that issue, however, i get a different issue haha. Notice on the bottom edge, the extrisuon, as it finishes, is super thick and overlaps the other shell. All 3 faces of the block are smooth except the one with the overlap, its jagged all the way up. Thanks for looking. Could be my filament, could be something else.</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://soliforum.com/i/?YgJKfSu.jpg" alt="http://soliforum.com/i/?YgJKfSu.jpg" /></span><br /><span class="postimg"><img src="http://soliforum.com/i/?GfSUODE.jpg" alt="http://soliforum.com/i/?GfSUODE.jpg" /></span></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[lt72884]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/18962/</uri>
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			<updated>2019-02-18T01:38:05Z</updated>
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