Since it only print one layer with 2 lines, the filament wasted is very limited, so although I rarely need to do bed leveling, I still use it as default. Peeling it off after print finish is more of a problem because the peeled of skirt can get inside carpet if not careful enough. Printer enclosure makes big difference here.

lt72884 wrote:

A skirt is like a brim but it can be printed a distance from the model and not connected to it and it can be made as meny layers thick as you would like.

What would be the advantage to a skirt besides purging the extruder to test layer adhesion before its to late?

thanks

FYI

on ebay, the jr pro, some are $686 hahahaha

Some people use a skirt to keep the model warm by building a wall around the model as it is built. This keeps the temp more uniform and may help in adhesion and bowing. But it waste a lot of filament.

Interesting. A more perminate structure would be better but it could interfere with movement of the extruder. I guess thats why they build an enclosure hahaha or a skirt around it. And now were back to the original post hahaha

on a side note, my hatchbox will be here tomorrow and i am excited to test it out:)

A skirt is like a brim but it can be printed a distance from the model and not connected to it and it can be made as meny layers thick as you would like.

What would be the advantage to a skirt besides purging the extruder to test layer adhesion before its to late?

thanks

FYI

on ebay, the jr pro, some are $686 hahahaha

Some people use a skirt to keep the model warm by building a wall around the model as it is built. This keeps the temp more uniform and may help in adhesion and bowing. But it waste a lot of filament.

A skirt is like a brim but it can be printed a distance from the model and not connected to it and it can be made as meny layers thick as you would like.

What would be the advantage to a skirt besides purging the extruder to test layer adhesion before its to late?

thanks

FYI

on ebay, the jr pro, some are $686 hahahaha

yizhou.he wrote:

david.tucker wrote:

The big difference is mini has no lcd screen so you have to use the computer to monitor your prints. That is not too big of a deal. Also the enclosure keeps the inside less dusty as well. In theory the jr could print in a colder room but I doubt it makes much difference, not without a heat bed.

Personally I would lean towards the jr pro myself. There dumping them on eBay right now in preparation for the new jr pro w.

For me, the enclosure keeps the peeled off skirt inside so that they don't fall into carpet, can be hard to clean sometimes.

Speaking of skirt, i can print supports, rafts and brims but not a skirt. I dont have that option. Exactly what is a skirt? is it any differnt than a brim?

tahnks

A skirt is like a brim but it can be printed a distance from the model and not connected to it and it can be made as meny layers thick as you would like.

david.tucker wrote:

The big difference is mini has no lcd screen so you have to use the computer to monitor your prints. That is not too big of a deal. Also the enclosure keeps the inside less dusty as well. In theory the jr could print in a colder room but I doubt it makes much difference, not without a heat bed.

Personally I would lean towards the jr pro myself. There dumping them on eBay right now in preparation for the new jr pro w.

For me, the enclosure keeps the peeled off skirt inside so that they don't fall into carpet, can be hard to clean sometimes.

Speaking of skirt, i can print supports, rafts and brims but not a skirt. I dont have that option. Exactly what is a skirt? is it any differnt than a brim?

tahnks

The big difference is mini has no lcd screen so you have to use the computer to monitor your prints. That is not too big of a deal. Also the enclosure keeps the inside less dusty as well. In theory the jr could print in a colder room but I doubt it makes much difference, not without a heat bed.

Personally I would lean towards the jr pro myself. There dumping them on eBay right now in preparation for the new jr pro w.

For me, the enclosure keeps the peeled off skirt inside so that they don't fall into carpet, can be hard to clean sometimes.

The big difference is mini has no lcd screen so you have to use the computer to monitor your prints. That is not too big of a deal. Also the enclosure keeps the inside less dusty as well. In theory the jr could print in a colder room but I doubt it makes much difference, not without a heat bed.

Personally I would lean towards the jr pro myself. There dumping them on eBay right now in preparation for the new jr pro w.

How do you find out about future products from them? I do go to their site weekly because i do like their products:)

I will check out ebay and see what i can find. I want to get one for my school students.

I just purchased me some hatchbox and i am excited to see how will my jr prints with it. I have tested the paper tag hack and it works great:)

Personally I would lean towards the jr pro myself. There dumping them on eBay right now in preparation for the new jr pro w.

I think i am going to paint my jr. the white is buggin me haha.

thanks

I was mostly looking into the mini w+ for someone else who has never printed before and wanted something easy to use haha

Although Jr. and mini have same build volume, Jr. actually have extra room on x-axis (30 mm+) for potential upgrade for slightly larger print bed or add 2nd extruder after ramps conversion. Another advantage of Jr. is have build in LED case light, that is absent in miniMaker.

miniMaker on the other hand use 24V power system, which heats nozzle lot faster, and miniMaker takes 1kg filament spool instead of 0.5kg spool Jr. can fit in.

The paper tag trick works on miniMaker, I don't know for sure it will work on mini W+ since it is newer model.

I would not recommend buying the new mini for $180 if you already own an Jr. I think mini is for beginner to test the water without risking too much money and learning effort. Time to look for something that have slightly larger build volume or dual extuder or whatever can extend your power in 3D printing. More importantly, find something that support opensource system that support advanced optimization on print quality.

On the other hand, if you see jr. or miniMaker in ebay on sale for parts for less than $80 (including shipping), RAMPS convert it can also be fun.

(the black and red one)

My main question, why is the mini not enclosed whilst the jr is?

Second question, i use the paper tag trick on my JR and it works great, will it work for the new mini that is 180$ from amazon?

thank you:)