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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Timp</p><p>what is your total materiel cost? Not including the SD printed parts. Did you find any good information comparing the rostock pros/cons to a SD2?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[jjcuff1]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-03-26T11:16:04Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: make a 3d printer. . . . . .yes or no]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Im working on a kossel now just finalizing my parts choice and will most likely have a build thread once I get everything <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[timp610]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-03-26T05:17:33Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s been done, and talked about here.&nbsp; You need to start using the search button.&nbsp; keyword bowden</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[cmetzel]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-03-25T20:24:09Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>hi folks</p><p>note on the picture. . . .there is a detail that gives me a hard on ! !</p><p>look at the extruder, and how they deliver the filament to the hot end:&nbsp; far away from the majority of the printers.&nbsp; i love that. </p><p>anyone know and can tell me if it work good, are there any problems with the extruder etc etc etc. <br />this is a mod i would like to try on my solidoodle.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[myrand]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-03-25T19:46:14Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I love watching the rostocks</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[cmetzel]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-03-22T14:02:08Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>ysb wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>rostock rulez <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.3ders.org/images/rostock-delta-robot-3d-printer-1.jpg" alt="http://www.3ders.org/images/rostock-delta-robot-3d-printer-1.jpg" /></span></p></blockquote></div><br /><p>this is the one i was thinking about when I made a post before about multiple print beds. You could have a gcode trigger to push another glass bed in every inch or 2 inches int he z direction. This so you can print many flat/small parts in one go</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[frozensoda]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/738/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-03-22T13:31:28Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: make a 3d printer. . . . . .yes or no]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>rostock rulez <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.3ders.org/images/rostock-delta-robot-3d-printer-1.jpg" alt="http://www.3ders.org/images/rostock-delta-robot-3d-printer-1.jpg" /></span></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ysb]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-03-22T12:49:06Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: make a 3d printer. . . . . .yes or no]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Making a printer? Yes -in fact I&#039;m planning on doing this myself!!</p><p>for your other questions....</p><p>Ball screw drive. accurate yes, fast -not so much, and rather expensive. </p><p>Everyone knows that the current rep-rap style drive with stepper, no feedback and just hope that no steps are missed system is less than perfect, (just search for threads here where people talk about shifting axis and missing steps).<br />but closed system electronics just is not yet available for these machines on the same sort of price point as the open loop electronics like the solidoodle has.</p><p>with the build area, when you start getting very large you&#039;re going to find it harder to avoid flexing in whatever gantry you have, need thicker rails, which increases weight and may decrease speed, also keeping your build area warm will get increasingly more difficult as the volume increases.</p><p>so far as what carriage to move, or how to group the carriages. the idea is that as you stack stages you increase error.</p><p>so assume that your model stays completely still, and the print head moves in X, Y and Z, all the Z wobble that has been talked about will now occur directly at the print head, not at the platform. the print head must be movable, so how do you restrain it to reduce the wobble?</p><p>which is why generally people making these machines only have two axis of movement on any part<br />(e.g head may move in X and Z, or X and Y or Y and Z, or just Z, or just Y or just X with the platform moving in the other axis).</p><p>which is best? it really doesn&#039;t make a whole heap of difference.</p><p>if you look at the original reprap darwin it moved the print head in the Z axis, whilst the table moved in X and Y. this means it&#039;s footprint was at least 4 times the footprint of the largest printable part (plus a bit extra for the framework.</p><p>if you look at the darwin machine the platform moves in the X direction, whilst the printhead moves in Y and Z. this means that the printers foot print is slightly over twice the foot print of the largest build.</p><p>The solidoodle machine where the print head moves Z and Y, with the platform moving in Z means that the footprint of the machine is around the same size and the largest printable object. (obviously plus a bit extra for the frame etc)</p><p>so for issues of space you may chose to go with one particular gantry system over another. -that&#039;s really up to you though!</p><br /><br /><br /><p>with standard milling, you generally move the part being made as this is a lot easier to move than the head of the machine where you may have a large motor and gearbox system attached to the spindle. (and the part you&#039;re making may be only a few inches square piece of steel.) -basically, with standard milling you&#039;re moving the part that is easiest to move!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[danny]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-03-22T12:06:06Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>there seems to be 2 ways of thinking about the x and y axis movement. </p><p>moving the cariage</p><p>or moving the part being made(just like a standard milling)</p><br /><p>wich one is the best ^ ? ? ? ? ?&nbsp; &nbsp;</p><p>moving the part is simple<br />moving the carriage require a much more complex desing.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[myrand]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-03-17T17:35:26Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Take a look at Trinity labs Aluminatus A1 for ideas.<br />It is in beta development&nbsp; $2000</p><p>Linear actuator X Y&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;12x12x12 print volume</p><p><a href="http://trinitylabs.com/pages/aluminatus-overview">http://trinitylabs.com/pages/aluminatus-overview</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[cozmicray]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-03-17T16:41:54Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Literally all of your questions can be answered by googling. Start with reprap.org.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[elmoret]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-03-17T02:07:33Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>after i first saw my solidoodle, i pretty much figured out the whole deal with 3d printers. </p><p>a stiff housing with a light printer carriage and fast steppers. </p><br /><p>now that my printer is down, i have some time to spare and i am thinking about building one from scratch. </p><p>using linear bearings and ballscrews. </p><p>a print surface of 30cmx30cmx30cm</p><p>an accurate and very fast heating bed</p><p>dual extruders with long lasting nozzles(mine died after a week)</p><br /><p>the big questions in my mind right now are about the electronics, the bed and the extruder. </p><p>wich electronic is best ? stick to arduino, go see something else maybe, i dont know. if i could use servo instead of steppers, i would do it(more accurate and repeatable because of the feedback)</p><p>is there anything to do for the extruder to make it lighter ?&nbsp; if i could remove the motor i would be happy to save that much weight.&nbsp; i wonder&nbsp; if i could put a extra heavy-duty extruder on the frame, and run the abs trough a flexible sleve attached to the nozzle. . . . . .hopefully the abs would not get stuck too much. </p><p>and the bed.. . . . .what is wrong with that thing ? why is it so slow ?<br />is there anything to do to have a good heating power that is even and especially fast ?</p><br /><p>i wonder if its worth making it or not. . . . . .the price would most likely be around 500$ excluding the electronics. would end up with a log lasting, very precise and repeatable printer. </p><br /><br /><br /><p>just so the part question dont show up, i am running cnc 3axis machining(with the 4th that is manual), lathe and i wll have the solidoodle running in 2 weeks.&nbsp; making the parts and the assembly is not a big problem. </p><br /><p>what do you guys think about the make it yourself kind of project. <br />is it something that would be worth it ?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[myrand]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-03-16T22:28:34Z</updated>
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