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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>pirvan wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Sr. Reaping_Engineer wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>People were fed up enough with his nonsense that <strong>they asked me to step in.</strong></p></blockquote></div><p>Seriously??</p><p>So you&#039;re saying the community got together and put out an ad for a &quot;troll killer&quot; found you and here you are?</p><p>Wow, it really sounds like a script straight out of Hollywood movie, don&#039;t it?</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh never-mind I forgot what I was gonna say ROFLMAO too old to care and to tired to type +1 Pirvan</p><p>this group has been through way worse than this to even blink over it. We even out lived the company our name was gleaned from.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[n2ri]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/795/</uri>
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			<updated>2018-03-10T01:56:05Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hey terra.david,</p><p>Is your printer running perfectly now? If not, do you still need help? </p><p>That&#039;s what this community is <span class="bbu">usually</span> really good at.</p><p>Let us know where you got to. Hopefully that will bring this thread back to its purpose and those who want to keep fighting can find somewhere else to do it.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[justsomeguy]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/302/</uri>
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			<updated>2018-03-09T15:28:40Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Sr. Reaping_Engineer wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>People were fed up enough with his nonsense that <strong>they asked me to step in.</strong></p></blockquote></div><p>Seriously??</p><p>So you&#039;re saying the community got together and put out an ad for a &quot;troll killer&quot; found you and here you are?</p><p>Wow, it really sounds like a script straight out of Hollywood movie, don&#039;t it?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[pirvan]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1357/</uri>
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			<updated>2018-03-09T15:00:26Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Abandoned 3D trying to get working]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>pirvan wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Kronikabuse wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>yiz has it coming..... so damn annoying</p></blockquote></div><p>Yeah, but not from someone who&#039;s been here for 2 days and thinks he&#039;s the anointed one.&nbsp; I don&#039;t remember anyone electing Señor Reaper as judge, jury and executioner.</p></blockquote></div><p>Try talking to some of your community members.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;People were fed up enough with his nonsense that they asked me to step in.</p><p>Perhaps as a community you need to step up your game and get people dialed in.&nbsp; &nbsp;Don&#039;t feed the trolls as it were, and Mr.&nbsp; Talkstoomuch is basically a troll.&nbsp; &nbsp;&quot;my opinion is the only opinion even when it runs counter to the collective knowledge base.&quot; </p><p>Hey whatever though,&nbsp; ultimately you lose when you allow his sort of behavior to continue.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;You lose members,&nbsp; you lose respect in the community and you lose the ability to recover either of them.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Sr. Reaping_Engineer]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/18559/</uri>
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			<updated>2018-03-09T12:50:48Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Kronikabuse wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>yiz has it coming..... so damn annoying</p></blockquote></div><p>Yeah, but not from someone who&#039;s been here for 2 days and thinks he&#039;s the anointed one.&nbsp; I don&#039;t remember anyone electing Señor Reaper as judge, jury and executioner.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[pirvan]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1357/</uri>
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			<updated>2018-03-08T19:03:12Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>yiz has it coming..... so damn annoying</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Kronikabuse]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/6797/</uri>
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			<updated>2018-03-08T16:31:51Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>+1</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[pirvan]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1357/</uri>
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			<updated>2018-03-08T14:43:00Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Abandoned 3D trying to get working]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>This was not a decision I undertook lightly,&nbsp; as I actually dislike confrontation.&nbsp; &nbsp; But this person &quot;yizhou.he&quot; is a goddamn nuisance and gives 3D Printing Experts a bad name.</p><p>This hobby is too young for people to establish themselves as end-all-be-all experts and rule the roost.</p></blockquote></div><p>That statement in your opinion I am sure is true. However lets back off on the rhetoric and play nice and not turn this thread or any other into a flame war. And lets not bash any particular brand. The Davinci is one brand I would not recommend to anyone . And I would not recommend any cheap clones. But hey seem to work for him.&nbsp; So if you want respect here you need to give it as well. There may come a time when Mr He moves on from his davincicis like you have&nbsp; &nbsp;but in the mean time respect&nbsp; the man if not the opinion. </p><p>Resectfully <br />Tin Falcon</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Tin Falcon]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/6775/</uri>
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			<updated>2018-03-08T11:23:55Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>do deep search of archives back years on this issue and likely find several proven solutions already discussed on this great group of experienced users. most issues on any type printer are the same no matter brand they all use same perimeters just different numbers and slicers to get there long as STL file is good also materials used</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[n2ri]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/795/</uri>
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			<updated>2018-03-08T06:03:07Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Abandoned 3D trying to get working]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>yizhou.he wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>It doesn&#039;t matter what size nozzle it is, you can replace with 0.4mm nozzle and it is very cheap even on amazon. 0.4 mm nozzle is the most useful nozzle size anyway. Smaller nozzle size improve resolution at cost of huge increase in printing time. (You might want to try it after your printer is up and running for a long time but not for now.) In the worse case, you buy an direct drive E3D clone to replace later (unless you are big fan of authentic E3D hotend, which will cost around $70-100, E3D clone cost less than $10 and work well for all my 3D printer). I think you should ignore the nozzle issue for now and get step/mm calibrated first.</p><p>I have tried to print on 0.4mm nozzle and set nozzle size to 0.3 mm and 0.25 mm in slicer, it print just fine when layer height is set to &lt;0.2mm. The overall quality is slightly less detail but definitely much better than what you have right now. </p><p>So if you suspect nozzle size is smaller than 0.4 mm, try lower the nozzle size in slicer, if you nozzle is smaller than 0.4 mm, this should fix the problem, otherwise, it should not make much difference and suggest the step/mm for extrusion is wrong and need to calibrate. I would suggest you start with the step/mm setting for reprap prusa i3 for extruder and further fine tune base on the print results.</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>the &quot;size dosnt matter&quot; thing dont work here now for years. I used a 0.35 due to that rez idea and was shown by a long time expert here that his 0.6 nozzle was way faster and couldnt see difference in rez from mine on N scale vehicle print 1/160 scale. nozzles are rarely ever the issue/fix on 3D printing problems</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[n2ri]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/795/</uri>
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			<updated>2018-03-08T05:57:52Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Word travels, see.&nbsp; &nbsp;I heard things about a certain person through my various contacts throughout the communities.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;What I dislike is when a person declares themselves king of the roost.&nbsp; Queen bee.&nbsp; &nbsp; Know-er of All The Things.</p><p>I do not claim to know everything no do I feel the need to chime in on every discussion, like a certain member here is doing,&nbsp; has done across multiple communities elsewhere and will continue to do so until we get him to dial it back.</p><p>No one wants to silence anyone else,&nbsp; far from it.&nbsp; &nbsp; Just tone it down.&nbsp; &nbsp;Make less effort to speak up on EVERY subject like an authority. </p><p>I honestly can&#039;t stand people like that,&nbsp; most people cannot stand people like that.</p><p>I speak only on things I know,&nbsp; that I can cite sources on, or back up with other sources of information.&nbsp; &nbsp;And if someone has a better idea I listen.&nbsp; &nbsp;</p><p>This was not a decision I undertook lightly,&nbsp; as I actually dislike confrontation.&nbsp; &nbsp; But this person &quot;yizhou.he&quot; is a goddamn nuisance and gives 3D Printing Experts a bad name. </p><p>This hobby is too young for people to establish themselves as end-all-be-all experts and rule the roost.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Sr. Reaping_Engineer]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/18559/</uri>
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			<updated>2018-03-08T01:22:52Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m pretty sure I&#039;ll get flamed for this, but this wouldn&#039;t be the first time, so here it goes.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Sr. Reaping_Engineer wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>For someone who only posts here occasionally you have an awful lot of posts. </p><p>And I&#039;d be very leary of taking advice from anyone who spends time hacking Davinci machines.&nbsp; &nbsp;They are close to the worst machine ever built...</p></blockquote></div><p>For someone who&#039;s been here for only 2 days you certainly have taken some of us to task and told us how less than useful our input is, because of the crappy 3D printers we&#039;ve been hacking.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Sr. Reaping_Engineer wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>In fact I was thinking of inviting the OP to our secret cult where we train people to become the absolute flipping BEST that they can be.&nbsp; No pretense,&nbsp; no grandstanding Davinci JR drivers and no juiced up Select Mini hackers.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Only by learning from the best can one become the best.</p><p>To do that you need professionals,&nbsp; you need experts and you need people who just want to help.</p><p>I think I&#039;ll do just that!</p></blockquote></div><p>I know I don&#039;t speak for anyone else, but with an attitude like the one that permeates your statement, I doubt that I&#039;m interested in joining your secret cult of professionals.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[pirvan]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1357/</uri>
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			<updated>2018-03-08T01:02:48Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>For someone who only posts here occasionally you have an awful lot of posts. </p><p>And I&#039;d be very leary of taking advice from anyone who spends time hacking Davinci machines.&nbsp; &nbsp;They are close to the worst machine ever built,&nbsp; I mistakenly drank the sales hype and bought three of them to start my business. </p><p>Hacking and tweaking is different than starting from zero with zero experience like the OP is doing.&nbsp; &nbsp; I admire his/her spirit starting with a broken machine and getting it rolling again.&nbsp; &nbsp; The fact that it&#039;s come this far is amazing.</p><p>In fact I was thinking of inviting the OP to our secret cult where we train people to become the absolute flipping BEST that they can be.&nbsp; No pretense,&nbsp; no grandstanding Davinci JR drivers and no juiced up Select Mini hackers.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Only by learning from the best can one become the best.</p><p>To do that you need professionals,&nbsp; you need experts and you need people who just want to help.</p><p>I think I&#039;ll do just that!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Sr. Reaping_Engineer]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/18559/</uri>
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			<updated>2018-03-07T23:59:22Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>1. I&#039;m here to share my thoughts and experiences. I have no experience with genuine E3D, therefore I have no idea what the benefit it will provide over the clone. I never trying to stop people buy genuine E3D, I just want people to know if they don&#039;t want to spend that 7000-10000 penny, what the other choice is.&nbsp; </p><p>2. I&#039;m still primary on facebook group, only post here occasionally. People do give bad advice on facebook group too. It usually trigger long and healthy discussion, and many people learned a lot from the discussion. So I personally don&#039;t want to discourage other people give bad advice, otherwise there will soon be no advice from anyone anymore.</p><p>3. Thing is - I don&#039;t have problems with my E3D clone - any of them. I have 8 of the V6&#039;s. They all just work. I do admit the longest one I have is only 10 months, and I can not promise it will not give me problem in the near future, but I&#039;m pretty happy about the quality of the prints and how long they last so far. As matter of fact, I think layer cooling fan, bed adhesion and extrusion control have more impact on the print quality for me rather than the hotend itself.&nbsp; </p><p>4. I do understand some people want the best of everything on their printer, lots of people like that on facebook too. But before you get a 3D printer up and running and calibrated, there are many mistake you can make to damage your hotend during the process, nozzle scratch over the not perfectly leveled print bed, hotend overheat due to bad fan or themostats issue, accidental break the wire for heating element or themostat. The risk is usually higher in people that don&#039;t have much experience with 3D printer. If I would upgrade to genuine E3D one day, I will wait until the printer stably print well on E3D clone for a while and then upgrade.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[yizhou.he]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/17164/</uri>
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			<updated>2018-03-07T18:11:59Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>For a point four nozzle try .48 for your extrusion width.&nbsp; Once you get your extrusion E-steps dialed in you can play with that a bit.&nbsp; I always use .48 for mine though.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;You will know you have your e-steps dialed in when you can set your flow rate to 100 and play around with the extrusion width to achieve various finishes.</p><p>One thing to remember about 3D printing,&nbsp; is no one person is right.&nbsp; &nbsp;We all have unique points of view and we all have different ways of approaching things.&nbsp; &nbsp; Some people like to be right all the time and demand that others follow their advice and ONLY their advice.&nbsp; &nbsp;Can&#039;t stand that sort of person.&nbsp; &nbsp; Hopefully we don&#039;t have anyone like this in this group because I really do not want to have to get nasty.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;I mean I have industrial printing experience going back to the early days,&nbsp; technical degrees and patents but I never FORCE my opinion or ideas on anyone...&nbsp; &nbsp;</p><p>In fact I came here because I was hoping to learn some new tricks.&nbsp; <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>That said,&nbsp; have fun and experiment.&nbsp; &nbsp;What works for you may not work for us.&nbsp; &nbsp;There are no &quot;right&quot; answers or exclusive tricks.&nbsp; If it works and gives good results,&nbsp; go with it.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Sr. Reaping_Engineer]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-03-07T03:57:07Z</updated>
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