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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: XYZ Da Vinci Jr. MKS 1.4 BOARD MODIFICATION]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>carl_m1968 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>yizhou.he wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>In the case of Jr. conversion, the major difference is RAMS board are too tall to fit in the original space where stock board sits. You will have three layer of boards stack on top of each other for RAMPS board while only one layer board for MKS. You will have to print a case for the RAMPS board or find another place to mount it.&nbsp; &nbsp;</p><p>Other benefit for MKS board includes easy support of touch screen, you can get MKS board + touch screen combo for less than $40 on aliexpress but I have not see similar good deal for touch screen support for RAMPS board.</p><p>Keep in mind that MKS board is JST 2.54 but Jr. use JST 2.0, therefore you still need to make cable for MKS board.</p></blockquote></div><p>you must not look very hard or think Aliepress is the only shopping venue in the world. </p><p><a href="https://www.ebay.com/itm/USA-3D-Printer-Kit-Ramps-1-4-Mega2560-A4988-12864-LCD-Controller-for-Arduino-Re/311818006361?epid=2010681869&amp;hash=item4899cd2f59:g:FtUAAOSwax5YvlUk">https://www.ebay.com/itm/USA-3D-Printer … Swax5YvlUk</a></p><p>Includes:</p><p>1x Mega 2560 board for Arduino<br />1x USB Cable<br />1x 3D Printer Controller RAMPS 1.4 Board（Red Color)<br />5x A4988 Stepper Motor Driver with Heatsink<br />1x 12864 LCD with control board<br />1x Smart Adapter<br />2 xFC flat cable</p><p>All for just $30 with free shipping from the US.</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>Do you understand the difference between A4988 drivers and TMC2100, besides the price. Huge differences, A4988 drivers are basically free, like you go to aliexpress and buy ladies swimsuit for the wifey, theyll throw in 4 free A4988 stepper drivers just incase</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[culbear]]></name>
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			<updated>2019-04-25T05:26:05Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>If your bed is not heated than blue painters tape works just as well and cost much less. If it is heated then glass and hairspray work much better and are cheaper.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[carl_m1968]]></name>
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			<updated>2019-03-24T20:48:30Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: XYZ Da Vinci Jr. MKS 1.4 BOARD MODIFICATION]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Do not use Dupon wires... after a while the motors did not work. I&#039;ve changed the cables and then all was working fine again.</p><p>And now I&#039;m using this as print underground:<br /><a href="https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B077TZW218/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1">https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B077TZ … &amp;psc=1</a></p><p>All other materials are bad and not 100% secure for 3d printing. I do not have to change it the next year, and the 1st layer is very good.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[betmeup]]></name>
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			<updated>2019-03-24T20:02:00Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: XYZ Da Vinci Jr. MKS 1.4 BOARD MODIFICATION]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>carl_m1968 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Aliexpress is the consumer side of Alibaba. They are one in the same company where Alibaba usually does business with other businesses and require bulk buys where as Aliexpress does business with individuals and allows single or small number buys. In short Alibaba owns Aliexpress.</p></blockquote></div><p>True, Alibaba do owns Aliexpress and many school and college, bank, and AI chip company in China, but customer protection on Alibaba b2b platform is very little, individual customer usually don&#039;t get good experience on the b2b platform. Also the product introduction and documentation related to the product is also minimal on Alibaba. In short, individual customer get much better shopping experience in Aliexpress than Alibaba.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[yizhou.he]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-09-05T21:59:03Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: XYZ Da Vinci Jr. MKS 1.4 BOARD MODIFICATION]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>yizhou.he wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Tin Falcon wrote:</cite><blockquote><p> That kind of says it all .But i&nbsp; &nbsp;do not think all of any group are bad&nbsp; . But enough to expect questionable results. I prefer at least shipped from usa. Or better yet made in usa if i can aford it. </p><p>In all do respect Mr He . most of of here stay&nbsp; away from Alibaba and the 40&nbsp; thieves. This includes the subsidiary ali express. <br />I will buy direct from china on small items&nbsp; that are not often used. if it is a really good deal.But then i only gamble what i am willing to lose. usually a&nbsp; ten or $20 item .&nbsp; </p><p>So you are correct the mks gen 1.4 board is indeed mega 2560 based.</p></blockquote></div><p>Yes, I can confirm MKS sbase are 32 bit processor and they are more expensive.</p><p>Alibaba and ali-express are different platform, I do not buy from Alibaba, it is b2b platform and have no much customer service or customer protection.</p><p>ali-express is more like amazon, it is b2c platform and offer buyer protection and keep track of seller reputation. You can dispute in ali-express if not happy with seller&#039;s response, I have so far no need to dispute because seller with good reputation all address my issue in satisfactory manner and try very hard to stop me from initiate a dispute. So far my only complaint for aliexpress is slow shipping. 2-3 weeks is very common. I would buy from amazon for parts needed in timely manner.</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>Aliexpress is the consumer side of Alibaba. They are one in the same company where Alibaba usually does business with other businesses and require bulk buys where as Aliexpress does business with individuals and allows single or small number buys. In short Alibaba owns Aliexpress.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2018-09-05T21:29:16Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: XYZ Da Vinci Jr. MKS 1.4 BOARD MODIFICATION]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Tin Falcon wrote:</cite><blockquote><p> That kind of says it all .But i&nbsp; &nbsp;do not think all of any group are bad&nbsp; . But enough to expect questionable results. I prefer at least shipped from usa. Or better yet made in usa if i can aford it. </p><p>In all do respect Mr He . most of of here stay&nbsp; away from Alibaba and the 40&nbsp; thieves. This includes the subsidiary ali express. <br />I will buy direct from china on small items&nbsp; that are not often used. if it is a really good deal.But then i only gamble what i am willing to lose. usually a&nbsp; ten or $20 item .&nbsp; </p><p>So you are correct the mks gen 1.4 board is indeed mega 2560 based.</p></blockquote></div><p>Yes, I can confirm MKS sbase are 32 bit processor and they are more expensive.</p><p>Alibaba and ali-express are different platform, I do not buy from Alibaba, it is b2b platform and have no much customer service or customer protection.</p><p>ali-express is more like amazon, it is b2c platform and offer buyer protection and keep track of seller reputation. You can dispute in ali-express if not happy with seller&#039;s response, I have so far no need to dispute because seller with good reputation all address my issue in satisfactory manner and try very hard to stop me from initiate a dispute. So far my only complaint for aliexpress is slow shipping. 2-3 weeks is very common. I would buy from amazon for parts needed in timely manner.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2018-09-05T20:55:26Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: XYZ Da Vinci Jr. MKS 1.4 BOARD MODIFICATION]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Tin Falcon wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>OK so the MKS gen 1.4 is a 8 bit board the mks sbase 1.3 is a 32 bit board. Sorry for the confusion <br /></p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>Hehehe hahaha... He said reputable and Chinese in the same sentence... Help I am rolling on the floor, laughing my a$$ off...</p></blockquote></div><p> That kind of says it all .But i&nbsp; &nbsp;do not think all of any group are bad&nbsp; . But enough to expect questionable results. I prefer at least shipped from usa. Or better yet made in usa if i can aford it. </p><p>In all do respect Mr He . most of of here stay&nbsp; away from Alibaba and the 40&nbsp; thieves. This includes the subsidiary ali express. <br />I will buy direct from china on small items&nbsp; that are not often used. if it is a really good deal.But then i only gamble what i am willing to lose. usually a&nbsp; ten or $20 item .&nbsp; </p><p>So you are correct the mks gen 1.4 board is indeed mega 2560 based.</p></blockquote></div><p>There fixed. Not all Chinese, but just Chinese sources.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[carl_m1968]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-09-04T22:51:40Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: XYZ Da Vinci Jr. MKS 1.4 BOARD MODIFICATION]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>OK so the MKS gen 1.4 is a 8 bit board the mks sbase 1.3 is a 32 bit board. Sorry for the confusion <br /></p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>Hehehe hahaha... He said reputable and Chinese in the same sentence... Help I am rolling on the floor, laughing my a$$ off...</p></blockquote></div><p> That kind of says it all .But i&nbsp; &nbsp;do not think all of any group are bad&nbsp; . But enough to expect questionable results. I prefer at least shipped from usa. Or better yet made in usa if i can aford it. </p><p>In all do respect Mr He . most of of here stay&nbsp; away from Alibaba and the 40&nbsp; thieves. This includes the subsidiary ali express. <br />I will buy direct from china on small items&nbsp; that are not often used. if it is a really good deal.But then i only gamble what i am willing to lose. usually a&nbsp; ten or $20 item .&nbsp; </p><p>So you are correct the mks gen 1.4 board is indeed mega 2560 based.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Tin Falcon]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-09-04T22:17:03Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: XYZ Da Vinci Jr. MKS 1.4 BOARD MODIFICATION]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hehehe hahaha... He said reputable and Chinese sources in the same sentence... Help I am rolling on the floor, laughing my a$$ off...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[carl_m1968]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-09-04T17:01:52Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>My MKS is from reputable Chinese sources on aliexpress, it is 8 bit processor MEGA2560.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[yizhou.he]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-09-04T14:12:25Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>iirc the biggest difference is thee mks is 32 bit processor&nbsp; and the ramps is 8.</p><p>check the reprap electronics wiki to verify this.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2018-09-03T19:33:08Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>either will work fine . Both are readily available from reputable USA&nbsp; sources.&nbsp; You do not need to purchase from third rate Chinese sources. </p><p><a href="https://folgertech.com/products/3d-printer-controller-ramps-1-4-for-reprap-mendel-prusa-arduino">https://folgertech.com/products/3d-prin … sa-arduino</a></p><p><a href="https://folgertech.com/collections/lcd-displays/products/reprap-ramps1-4-2004-lcd-display-controller-with-adapter-mendel-prusa-3d-printer-1">https://folgertech.com/collections/lcd- … -printer-1</a><br /><a href="http://<br />https://folgertech.com/products/ramps-1-4-controller-5x-a4988-drivers-mega-2560-r3-set-for-3d-printer-1"><br />https://folgertech.com/products/ramps- … -printer-1</a></p><p>You can get quality made in use Ramps Here. Not cheap but as they say you often get what you pay for </p><p><a href="https://ultimachine.com/products/ramps-pre-assembled-kit">https://ultimachine.com/products/ramps- … embled-kit</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Tin Falcon]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-09-01T18:58:40Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The difficulty to setup is similar, difference are most the RAMPS board need to assemble the Arduino board and RAMPS board involve alignment of lots of pins, if any of the pins are bent due to quality issue or shipping issue, it can take some time to make the connection stable. Other than that, RAMPS board use DuPont pins and MKS board use JST 2.54 connectors (OP use DuPont pins on MKS, it should work but may not be very stable).</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[yizhou.he]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-09-01T14:59:26Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thank you! Are both boards the same difficulty to set up? The MKS board looks easier but I don&#039;t really know. I would like to go the ramps route.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[charlesmillhollin]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-09-01T14:32:02Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>MKS board kits usually cost about $15 more than RAMPS board kits. </p><p>If you don&#039;t mind put RAMPS board and LCD out of the case, go RAMPS direction. There is nice box you can print to house and protect RAMPS board and LCD with cooling fan. Disadvantage with this plan is you need lots of long cable for endstop and step motor depend on where you want to mount the box. Good cable making and management is important, otherwise you end up with unstable system. Most of cable disconnection will likely lead to printer stop or reboot. </p><p>If you want to keep main board inside, MKS is better choice, there will only LCD cable and SD card reader cable came out of the printer case, and even if any of these two cable gets disconnected (which is unlikely due to the solid plug and relative strong cable), printer will keep running just fine.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[yizhou.he]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-09-01T14:20:42Z</updated>
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