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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>what carl_m1968 said... be careful to not crush the mid section - ONLY the fold over tabs that hold the wire.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[heartless]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-09-30T02:01:41Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>josefcub wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>heartless wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>As it is, I just use a pair of needle nose pliers to crimp new ends on. It works fine. On a rare occasion I may add just a tiny bit of solder as added insurance.</p></blockquote></div><p>I played around with that a bit, and tried to put a 4-pin Molex female on a motor.&nbsp; I got the crimps to fit inside the housing fine, using just the needle nose pliers.&nbsp; But they won&#039;t -stay- in the connector housing, and tend to come free when I try to plug it in.&nbsp; &nbsp;What&#039;s your secret? lol</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>There is a very small tab that sticks out of the back of the pins. If you are using pliers there is a possibility you are crushing that tab. It is used to lock the pin into the housing.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[carl_m1968]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-09-30T01:38:16Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>heartless wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>As it is, I just use a pair of needle nose pliers to crimp new ends on. It works fine. On a rare occasion I may add just a tiny bit of solder as added insurance.</p></blockquote></div><p>I played around with that a bit, and tried to put a 4-pin Molex female on a motor.&nbsp; I got the crimps to fit inside the housing fine, using just the needle nose pliers.&nbsp; But they won&#039;t -stay- in the connector housing, and tend to come free when I try to plug it in.&nbsp; &nbsp;What&#039;s your secret? lol</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[josefcub]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-09-30T00:32:06Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>yeah, cutting down the excess wiring can be a bit of painstaking work, but it most definitely does clean things up a good deal.</p><p>I tried to order a crimp tool some time ago, along with a molex end kit, but the tool was apparently back-ordered and Amazon cancelled the order for that on me. I got the molex kit, and have since ordered some female ends to refill it, lol<br />As it is, I just use a pair of needle nose pliers to crimp new ends on. It works fine. On a rare occasion I may add just a tiny bit of solder as added insurance.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[heartless]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-09-26T12:11:42Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Wiring Strategies]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>carl_m1968 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I route by purpose and even cut extra holes if needed. I keep sensor wires away from motor lines and power lines to avoid the chance of noise being imposed on the sensor line and causing a glitch. I also keep power isolated to it&#039;s own route as well.</p></blockquote></div><p>That sounds quite sensible.&nbsp; I&#039;ve tried to avoid cutting holes in my SD&#039;s frames (the SD4s&#039; RAMPS conversions excepted).&nbsp; They&#039;re steel, but my luck I&#039;ll end up twisting them or something to apply the force needed to drill into it from behind. I can re-square a Prusa i3 or a MendelMax.&nbsp; A riveted steel frame, not so much.&nbsp; <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/hmm.png" width="15" height="15" alt="hmm" /></p><p>I have kept the primary power wires separated, although running the extruder and heated bed wiring required them to run near the other wires for a while.&nbsp; No effects that I can see on my prints, at least.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[josefcub]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4727/</uri>
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			<updated>2017-09-23T20:29:54Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p><strong>heartless wrote:</strong><br />remove excess wiring, <br />twist wires to make them easier to keep neat (also helps with the &quot;noise&quot; thing)</p></blockquote></div><p>The part I hate the <em>most</em> about wiring up another 3d printer are all the lovely cuts and splices to the wires to get them to a usable length (about half of the stuff I use is re-used from the printer itself most of the time, and all the motors have lovely 1 meter cables that nobody ever trimmed).&nbsp; It&#039;s the only part that feels like real work. ;-)&nbsp; The only thing I don&#039;t try to cut are IDC-style ribbon cables, just because I lack IDC and Dupont crimping tools.&nbsp; Thankfully, I only usually have one small one per printer.&nbsp; </p><p>You know, twisting wires is one thing I really haven&#039;t considered.&nbsp; I&#039;ve usually tried to keep power and motor wires separate where I could, and I&#039;ve never really had noise issues on my motors that I can detect.</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p><strong>knowack wrote:</strong><br />First of all, I certainly don&#039;t think you&#039;ve &#039;fallen flat&#039; with your cabling!&nbsp; Neat wiring is always a challenge, and yours looks pretty good.&nbsp; However, we&#039;re always wanting to improve our skills a bit, so I have an idea:<br />Try some cable raceway, as in this photo:</p></blockquote></div><p>Thanks!&nbsp; I&#039;ve used similar stuff inside of my rack, to neatly route Cat5 cabling.&nbsp; I never considered finding stuff small enough to work with 3d printer wiring, but I bet it would look awesome.</p><p>Thank you both for your ideas! <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[josefcub]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-09-23T20:09:37Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>First of all, I certainly don&#039;t think you&#039;ve &#039;fallen flat&#039; with your cabling!&nbsp; Neat wiring is always a challenge, and yours looks pretty good.&nbsp; However, we&#039;re always wanting to improve our skills a bit, so I have an idea:</p><p>Try some cable raceway, as in this photo:<br /><span class="postimg"><img src="https://www.iewc.com/assets/productimages/F.75X1.5LG6-A_Images.jpg" alt="https://www.iewc.com/assets/productimages/F.75X1.5LG6-A_Images.jpg" /></span><br />(with or without cover)</p><p>Or this:<br /><span class="postimg"><img src="https://www.iewc.com/assets/productimages/181-12004_Image.jpg" alt="https://www.iewc.com/assets/productimages/181-12004_Image.jpg" /></span></p><p>This sort of product is used in my laser engraver, and in my satellite truck at work.&nbsp; It keeps the cables routed neatly, and lets the wires exit the bundle where needed.</p><p>Here&#039;s a Thingiverse item that&#039;s similar to the top photo:<a href="https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2511419">https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2511419</a></p><p>This Thingiverse item is more like the lower photo:<a href="https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1672010">https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1672010</a></p><p>A different approach that may inspire you:<a href="https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:937310/#files">https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:937310/#files</a></p><p>There&#039;s always a Divine symmetry when you use your 3D printer to make parts for your 3D printer!</p><p>-Kevin</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[knowack]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-09-22T01:56:40Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>remove excess wiring, <br />twist wires to make them easier to keep neat (also helps with the &quot;noise&quot; thing)<br />wire wrap &amp; zip ties do help, too, as long as it is flexible enough to allow movement where needed</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[heartless]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/10399/</uri>
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			<updated>2017-09-22T01:32:53Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I route by purpose and even cut extra holes if needed. I keep sensor wires away from motor lines and power lines to avoid the chance of noise being imposed on the sensor line and causing a glitch. I also keep power isolated to it&#039;s own route as well.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[carl_m1968]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/7731/</uri>
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			<updated>2017-09-21T23:15:23Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Wiring Strategies]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve rebuilt a good many of my printers, both Solidoodles and non-Solidoodles alike.&nbsp; While I can make the fronts look pretty decent:</p><br /><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://soliforum.com/i/?KPeDxCk.jpg" alt="http://soliforum.com/i/?KPeDxCk.jpg" /></span></p><br /><p>I always fall flat on the wire organization in the rear:</p><br /><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://soliforum.com/i/?q0dWZ6x.jpg" alt="http://soliforum.com/i/?q0dWZ6x.jpg" /></span></p><br /><p>and while I think that&#039;s one of my better wiring jobs of the recent past (I refuse to show pictures of the wiring jobs I&#039;ve done inside the electronics bays on my SD4s!), I can probably do better.&nbsp; So my question to you all is:</p><p>How do you handle your wiring?&nbsp; How does it turn out?&nbsp; What strategies do you all use to make things work well -and- not look like a rat&#039;s nest?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[josefcub]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-09-21T22:52:31Z</updated>
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