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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Question about mk4 extruder replacement and loseness]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>damn, for 50$ i&#039;ll start the milling for you and you&#039;ll get one made of 6061 aircraft grade aluminium.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[myrand]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1153/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-03-23T16:14:05Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Question about mk4 extruder replacement and loseness]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>cmetzel wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Tim, don&#039;t get discouraged by what you&#039;ve been doing.&nbsp; It&#039;s being noticed by I hope many others as well as me.&nbsp; As soon as I get your PM with your address I&#039;m sending a couple spools and I&#039;ll take care of shipping charges because you&#039;re helping out so many others.</p></blockquote></div><p>I don&#039;t mind it a bit, Just surprised they manage to sell for that much.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[elmoret]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/221/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-03-20T22:23:00Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Question about mk4 extruder replacement and loseness]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Schieggster wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>That makes total sense, I think for within the community, if I don&#039;t screw it up, I&#039;d do it at cost (Whole whopping $3.00 probably). I do sell some prints and charge per m of filament rather that cm^3, but I&#039;m doing test models for things I hope to sell eventually. I&#039;d like to generate enough for a couple spools of filament here and there.</p></blockquote></div><p>Man after my own heart... Just enough for a fix... then another... and another... <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[cckens]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/129/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-03-20T21:37:44Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Question about mk4 extruder replacement and loseness]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>cmetzel wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>That&#039;s why I keep telling people to raise what they&#039;re charging for prints.&nbsp; I started off at half of shapeways price or half of our current suppliers prices when my quality wasn&#039;t nearly as close as theirs.&nbsp; But as I&#039;ve learned and improved my quality I&#039;m bumping up a bit.&nbsp; If they don&#039;t like my price or shapeways is lower than I want to charge I give that option to the potential customer.&nbsp; </p><p>Early on I asked the question and people said you can legitimately charge for your engineering time but shouldn&#039;t charge that much for your printing time because you&#039;re not doing anything.&nbsp; &nbsp;Here&#039;s shapeways doing literally no engineering other than orienting and closing open polygons (not even sure they do the closing of poly&#039;s I&#039;ve never uploaded a bad model to them to see)&nbsp; &nbsp;But the point is they&#039;re charging WAY more than any of us would charge for this set of parts, that they are certainly putting on one platform and printing in under an hour.&nbsp; </p><p>Tim, don&#039;t get discouraged by what you&#039;ve been doing.&nbsp; It&#039;s being noticed by I hope many others as well as me.&nbsp; As soon as I get your PM with your address I&#039;m sending a couple spools and I&#039;ll take care of shipping charges because you&#039;re helping out so many others.</p></blockquote></div><p>That makes total sense, I think for within the community, if I don&#039;t screw it up, I&#039;d do it at cost (Whole whopping $3.00 probably). I do sell some prints and charge per m of filament rather that cm^3, but I&#039;m doing test models for things I hope to sell eventually. I&#039;d like to generate enough for a couple spools of filament here and there.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Schieggster]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/928/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-03-20T20:50:44Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Question about mk4 extruder replacement and loseness]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>JustSomeGuyTN wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>It was 50.99 including shipping.&nbsp; But that is including the tensioner arm and both versions of the add on retainer which I&#039;m not using.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>cmetzel wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Looks good!&nbsp; How much was it at Shapeways if you don&#039;t mind my asking?</p></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><br /><p>That&#039;s why I keep telling people to raise what they&#039;re charging for prints.&nbsp; I started off at half of shapeways price or half of our current suppliers prices when my quality wasn&#039;t nearly as close as theirs.&nbsp; But as I&#039;ve learned and improved my quality I&#039;m bumping up a bit.&nbsp; If they don&#039;t like my price or shapeways is lower than I want to charge I give that option to the potential customer.&nbsp; </p><p>Early on I asked the question and people said you can legitimately charge for your engineering time but shouldn&#039;t charge that much for your printing time because you&#039;re not doing anything.&nbsp; &nbsp;Here&#039;s shapeways doing literally no engineering other than orienting and closing open polygons (not even sure they do the closing of poly&#039;s I&#039;ve never uploaded a bad model to them to see)&nbsp; &nbsp;But the point is they&#039;re charging WAY more than any of us would charge for this set of parts, that they are certainly putting on one platform and printing in under an hour.&nbsp; </p><p>Tim, don&#039;t get discouraged by what you&#039;ve been doing.&nbsp; It&#039;s being noticed by I hope many others as well as me.&nbsp; As soon as I get your PM with your address I&#039;m sending a couple spools and I&#039;ll take care of shipping charges because you&#039;re helping out so many others.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[cmetzel]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/78/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-03-20T20:14:25Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Question about mk4 extruder replacement and loseness]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>JustSomeGuyTN wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>It was 50.99 including shipping.&nbsp; But that is including the tensioner arm and both versions of the add on retainer which I&#039;m not using.</p></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;m in the wrong business. I&#039;ve been printing and shipping MK4s for free!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[elmoret]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/221/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-03-20T20:02:18Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Question about mk4 extruder replacement and loseness]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It was 50.99 including shipping.&nbsp; But that is including the tensioner arm and both versions of the add on retainer which I&#039;m not using.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>cmetzel wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Looks good!&nbsp; How much was it at Shapeways if you don&#039;t mind my asking?</p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[JustSomeGuyTN]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/96/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-03-20T19:59:28Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Question about mk4 extruder replacement and loseness]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Looks good!&nbsp; How much was it at Shapeways if you don&#039;t mind my asking?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[cmetzel]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/78/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-03-20T19:34:11Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Question about mk4 extruder replacement and loseness]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Nicky,</p><p>Here&#039;s a pic</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>nickythegreek wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Can we got some pics of the shapways printed mk4? I want to see how nice they came out!&nbsp; I think there might be a shim you can print (or just reprint the part that is loose) if you can make it through a print.</p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[JustSomeGuyTN]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/96/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-03-20T19:25:38Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Question about mk4 extruder replacement and loseness]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The shapeways as cmetzel said is probably a bitter smaller and more accurate. Your tape idea sounds good as a fix.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[lawsy]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-03-11T20:07:00Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Question about mk4 extruder replacement and loseness]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>cmetzel,</p><p>&nbsp; That&#039;s what I started to think too.&nbsp; Tonight when I get home I&#039;m going to try wrapping a bit of tape around the hot end to get the tighter fit.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>cmetzel wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I think what you&#039;re seeing is a difference in technology.&nbsp; Our printers have a little more ooze than the shapeways printers.&nbsp; When tek/lawsy did the mk4 they almost certainly took this into consideration and sized it appropriately so it would fit the peek barrel.</p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[JustSomeGuyTN]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/96/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-03-11T15:37:08Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Question about mk4 extruder replacement and loseness]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I think what you&#039;re seeing is a difference in technology.&nbsp; Our printers have a little more ooze than the shapeways printers.&nbsp; When tek/lawsy did the mk4 they almost certainly took this into consideration and sized it appropriately so it would fit the peek barrel.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[cmetzel]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/78/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-03-11T15:01:20Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Question about mk4 extruder replacement and loseness]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Can we got some pics of the shapways printed mk4? I want to see how nice they came out!&nbsp; I think there might be a shim you can print (or just reprint the part that is loose) if you can make it through a print.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[nickythegreek]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/366/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-03-11T13:34:42Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Question about mk4 extruder replacement and loseness]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>When my hot end clogged last time I decided to go ahead and get a mk4 extruder replacement.&nbsp; I used Shapeways to have the extruder made and I ordered a new hot end from Solidoodle.&nbsp; Since it was too expensive I also ordered a replacement jigsaw extruder just in case.&nbsp; My original jigsaw is cracked in a bunch of places.&nbsp; The mk4 looked great from shapeways but the hot end seems a little loose in it&#039;s slot.&nbsp; I was thinking about wrapping some tape around the black hot end tube to give it a little more tight fit.&nbsp; The first print I made with it turned out ok but seems to have some weird sides.&nbsp; I will print out a cube next and try to post a picture.&nbsp; Has anyone else had issue with the hotend moving in the mk4?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[JustSomeGuyTN]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/96/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-03-11T13:31:43Z</updated>
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