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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>velvetcream wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Have you tried printing with a brim?</p><p>Add one with 3-5mm and it should improve things.<br />Also ensure the first layer is well and truly squashed onto the bed- adjust the z offset for that</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>Not that one yet, I will tomorrow night, but I&#039;ve had 7 successful prints today. And I should have my settings right to work in the future *Knocks on wood*</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Schieggster]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-03-17T08:26:56Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: How sticky is hairspray for printing?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Schieggster wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>So I did hairspray and glass, and enclosed my build area, but for the life of me, I can&#039;t get this watch stand to print wiothout warping</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/XPiE82h.jpg" alt="http://i.imgur.com/XPiE82h.jpg" /></span></p><p>Maybe it&#039;s the wrong hairspray?<br />Bed temp 100c</p></blockquote></div><p>Have you tried printing with a brim?</p><p>Add one with 3-5mm and it should improve things.<br />Also ensure the first layer is well and truly squashed onto the bed- adjust the z offset for that</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[velvetcream]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-03-17T07:28:43Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: How sticky is hairspray for printing?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Rocketman wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Schieggster wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>So I did hairspray and glass, and enclosed my build area, but for the life of me, I can&#039;t get this watch stand to print wiothout warping</p><p><a href="http://i.imgur.com/XPiE82h.jpg">http://i.imgur.com/XPiE82h.jpg</a></p><p>Maybe it&#039;s the wrong hairspray?<br />Bed temp 100c</p></blockquote></div><p>I have yet to build an enclosure and i hope I don&#039;t still have the same curling issue afterwards, but out of curiousity how much time do you allow for the insides to heat up before you start the print?</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>Sometimes, Until it say&#039;s 100c for bed temp, but I&#039;m assuming I need to let the enclosure warm up too?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-03-17T03:56:29Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: How sticky is hairspray for printing?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Schieggster wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>So I did hairspray and glass, and enclosed my build area, but for the life of me, I can&#039;t get this watch stand to print wiothout warping</p><p><a href="http://i.imgur.com/XPiE82h.jpg">http://i.imgur.com/XPiE82h.jpg</a></p><p>Maybe it&#039;s the wrong hairspray?<br />Bed temp 100c</p></blockquote></div><p>I have yet to build an enclosure and i hope I don&#039;t still have the same curling issue afterwards, but out of curiousity how much time do you allow for the insides to heat up before you start the print?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Rocketman]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-03-17T03:55:04Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>ronsii wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Rocketman wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>cmetzel wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Just put the screw in from the bottom, leave the holder alone,&nbsp; the head of the screw is facing down gives you more length.</p></blockquote></div><p>So than the only thing I will need is to adjust the screw to create enough space between the extruder and the piece of glass I clip down on the platform? And somehow <strong>taking the screw out and reinserting it from underneath</strong> (which I assume would also change the clockwise/counter clockwise adjustments) <strong>it has more length</strong>? I think the printer should have come with a screw long enough to pop right out of the top of the machine both so it has all the length anyone could need as well as being more accessable.</p></blockquote></div><p><strong>BOLD</strong> = correct</p><p>You want the distance between the glass and the extruder tip to match the distance between the bed with kapton and the extruder tip.</p><br /><p>The printer isn&#039;t designed to be used with glass and hairspray that&#039;s why you have to change things around.</p></blockquote></div><p>So than nothing really needs to be &quot;inverted?&quot; i just need to create seperation? Is there a way to tell the extruder to lightly go down onto the edge of the platform so I can visually see the platform go down as I turn the screw and eventually slide the glass in there?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-03-17T03:53:41Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: How sticky is hairspray for printing?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Rocketman wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>cmetzel wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Just put the screw in from the bottom, leave the holder alone,&nbsp; the head of the screw is facing down gives you more length.</p></blockquote></div><p>So than the only thing I will need is to adjust the screw to create enough space between the extruder and the piece of glass I clip down on the platform? And somehow <strong>taking the screw out and reinserting it from underneath</strong> (which I assume would also change the clockwise/counter clockwise adjustments) <strong>it has more length</strong>? I think the printer should have come with a screw long enough to pop right out of the top of the machine both so it has all the length anyone could need as well as being more accessable.</p></blockquote></div><p><strong>BOLD</strong> = correct</p><p>You want the distance between the glass and the extruder tip to match the distance between the bed with kapton and the extruder tip.</p><br /><p>The printer isn&#039;t designed to be used with glass and hairspray that&#039;s why you have to change things around.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-03-16T04:54:45Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: How sticky is hairspray for printing?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>cmetzel wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Just put the screw in from the bottom, leave the holder alone,&nbsp; the head of the screw is facing down gives you more length.</p></blockquote></div><p>So than the only thing I will need is to adjust the screw to create enough space between the extruder and the piece of glass I clip down on the platform? And somehow taking the screw out and reinserting it from underneath (which I assume would also change the clockwise/counter clockwise adjustments) it has more length? I think the printer should have come with a screw long enough to pop right out of the top of the machine both so it has all the length anyone could need as well as being more accessable.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-03-16T04:25:03Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>So I did hairspray and glass, and enclosed my build area, but for the life of me, I can&#039;t get this watch stand to print wiothout warping</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/XPiE82h.jpg" alt="http://i.imgur.com/XPiE82h.jpg" /></span></p><p>Maybe it&#039;s the wrong hairspray?<br />Bed temp 100c</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-03-16T02:21:29Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>wire10ga wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I picked up some feeler guages at amazon, that way I know what distance I am at if I need to the adjust Z screw up or down<br /><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BYGIR4/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i03?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1">http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BY … &amp;psc=1</a></p></blockquote></div><p>Well, I&#039;m planing on stopping by Harbor Freight, to grab an IR Thermometer, Calipers and a set of feeler gauges. </p><p>Suggestions on Print head distance? I know printer paper is about .10 mm.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-03-15T17:17:20Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I picked up some feeler guages at amazon, that way I know what distance I am at if I need to the adjust Z screw up or down<br /><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BYGIR4/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i03?ie=UTF8&amp;psc=1">http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BY … &amp;psc=1</a></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-03-15T17:04:15Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I use a piece of paper from a lined memo pad that I have by my printer.&nbsp; I adjust to light tension on the paper over the 3 adjustment screws.&nbsp; Then I set my first layer flow rate to .9 and that seems to be about perfect for me.&nbsp; Again this is for .3mm printing.&nbsp; I never have any lift issues anymore.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-03-15T15:53:13Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>cmetzel wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>It&#039;s not that finicky.&nbsp; On a clean sheet of glass I put a dusting, but I reapply it every other print up to maybe 3-4 times.&nbsp; So anywhere from just a little to a bunch should work fine.&nbsp; Maybe it&#039;s more critical with .1mm printing but start out with just a light spray and see what your results are.</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>I did have an issue with printing a long rectangular piece 4&quot;Lx2&quot;W , bed at 100C with Hairspray and glass, it just refuses to stick... perhaps I need to level the bed? What would y&#039;all suggest to best judge distance, I&#039;ve asked before, but printer paper seems a bit thin.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-03-15T15:46:39Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s not that finicky.&nbsp; On a clean sheet of glass I put a dusting, but I reapply it every other print up to maybe 3-4 times.&nbsp; So anywhere from just a little to a bunch should work fine.&nbsp; Maybe it&#039;s more critical with .1mm printing but start out with just a light spray and see what your results are.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[cmetzel]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-03-15T14:38:17Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>So for reference, how much hairspray is &quot;enough&quot;?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-03-15T05:13:15Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Just put the screw in from the bottom, leave the holder alone,&nbsp; the head of the screw is facing down gives you more length.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-03-15T02:42:43Z</updated>
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