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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Sometimes BROF Is A Dummy,  This Is One Of Those Times]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It can happen.&nbsp; Even us experienced 3D&#039;ers get a reality check on occasion.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[knowack]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4251/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-12-31T17:08:13Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Sometimes BROF Is A Dummy,  This Is One Of Those Times]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yup, that was good for a chuckle. </p><p>more is not always better. <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[heartless]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/10399/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-12-29T00:30:44Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/130021/#p130021</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Sometimes BROF Is A Dummy,  This Is One Of Those Times]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>(Subtitle:&nbsp; A Day In The Life Of A 3D Printing <em>&quot;Expert&quot;</em>)</p><p>Gather around and prepare for a chuckle.</p><p>The I3 2020 I bought from Hearless has been a good machine,&nbsp; &nbsp;A bit temperamental at times but it really does good work.&nbsp; &nbsp; Most of the time.&nbsp; &nbsp; When it wants to.&nbsp; &nbsp; Silly machine.&nbsp; <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p><p>Seriously though we bought it to jumpstart our business after a setback,&nbsp; and now it does duty as a prototype/test machine.&nbsp; &nbsp; Along the way it developed a habit of skipping and stalling during extrude.</p><p>Initially I thought it was a thermal stability issue at high temps so I replace the thermistor with a TC.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Started printing well again,&nbsp; &nbsp;then after some mods it started misbehaving again.</p><p>So I turned up the V-ref on the E-drive.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Slight improvement.&nbsp; &nbsp;Gave it more power.</p><p>The board it shipped with eventually died (as all good things do),&nbsp; so I replaced it,&nbsp; and flashed the firmware back to it...&nbsp; and the skipping came back.</p><p>A helpful member suggested some tuning,&nbsp; &nbsp;more E-steps,&nbsp; more acceleration,&nbsp; more power.</p><p>It got worse and worse,&nbsp; &nbsp;so I replaced the motor.&nbsp; &nbsp; And the driver.&nbsp; &nbsp; And the board again...&nbsp; &nbsp;and this problem would NOT GO AWAY.</p><p>I reached out to Heartless,&nbsp; she was stumped.&nbsp; &nbsp; Calls to Folgertech basically resulted in &quot;If you ordered an FT-5 press one,&nbsp; all other callers can hang up and--&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp;Well not quite but they had very little to say.</p><p>Reached out to Heartless again.&nbsp; &nbsp; She suggested turning down a certain setting in the firmware...</p><p>And what in the name of all that isn&#039;t bacon it worked.</p><p>So I lowered another setting.</p><p>And another.</p><p>To the point where I had massive underextrusion and from there I&#039;ve gradually dialed it back in.</p><br /><br /><p>Go ahead and laugh...&nbsp; &nbsp;I was following the advice of those who came before me.&nbsp; &nbsp;And it seemed intuitive -- stalling = more power/more steps.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Turns out we were overfeeding to the point the machine was going &quot;LISTEN, HUMAN I CAN&#039;T CHEW ALL THIS STOP OMG.&quot;</p><p>Long story short... well sometimes even us &quot;experts&quot; have our moments.&nbsp; &nbsp;Hopefully by sharing this I can prevent someone else from going down the same path.&nbsp; <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[BurningRingOfFire]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/11931/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-12-28T18:59:48Z</updated>
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