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	<updated>2016-07-06T02:53:18Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: PLA troubles - strange]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve reduced retraction to 1mm and that has solved my problems.</p><p>my new questions.<br />#1.&nbsp; how long should I expect to run a nozzle before a cleaning on PLA?</p><p> I&#039;ve been cleaning with two drill bits and a torch.&nbsp; running the bits in by hand to draw out the plastic.<br />#2&nbsp; &nbsp;What is your preferred method.</p><p><span style="color: blue">As wardjr said - I don&#039;t clean my nozzles either, unless i get a clog on a rare occasion. You really shouldnt need to &quot;clean&quot; the inside unless you are clearing a clog.</span></p><p>New problem.&nbsp; I&#039;m running the crap out of my machine<br />Last night the Y-axis started jumping teeth.&nbsp; &nbsp;I lubed it well with light oil.&nbsp; But it still seem stiff.&nbsp; I took the y axis apart and all parts seem to slide smooth independently.&nbsp; but when I reassembled...it seems a bit stiff as an assembly.&nbsp; I futzed with the tension and now I wonder if the belts are too tight<br />#3&nbsp; how do you gauge belt tension</p><p><span style="color: blue">I run mine tight enough that they can just be pinched together in the middle with the carriage parked at one end... </span></p><p>#4&nbsp; any ideas of how to loosen up the y-axis<br />( I know that #4 could be a hundred different answers...give me a couple of top choices please)</p><p><span style="color: blue">is everything squared up? if one side is slightly ahead/behind the other side it will cause it to bind up...<br />Loosen the set screw in the right rear pulley, and work the carriages back and forth a little, stopping with things in a neutral position and tighten the set screw again. </span></p><p>#5&nbsp; is light oil (like 3 in 1) the right choice?</p><p><span style="color: blue">I use 3-in-1 oil all the time on the smooth rods. If you dont think that is enough, you can try a very thin coating of white lithium grease (available at most auto parts stores)</span></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[heartless]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/10399/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-07-06T02:53:18Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: PLA troubles - strange]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t ever clean my nozzles but rarely use PLA. <br />3 in 1 oil is fine.<br />If the Y axis binds as an assembly then you&#039;ll have to futz with alignment of the two y belts until you find the sweet spot.&nbsp; You may also find that one of the rods has a slight bend to it, try rotating them 1/4 turn and see if anything changes.<br />As for belt tension the important thing is that they are equal.&nbsp; I do that by plucking them with the gantry near center and adjust to the same frequency.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2291/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-07-05T18:21:03Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: PLA troubles - strange]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Heartless, WardJr, and Carl.&nbsp; you were a big help.</p><p>I&#039;ve reduced retraction to 1mm and that has solved my problems.</p><p>my new questions.<br />#1.&nbsp; how long should I expect to run a nozzle before a cleaning on PLA?</p><p> I&#039;ve been cleaning with two drill bits and a torch.&nbsp; running the bits in by hand to draw out the plastic.<br />#2&nbsp; &nbsp;What is your preferred method.</p><p>New problem.&nbsp; I&#039;m running the crap out of my machine<br />Last night the Y-axis started jumping teeth.&nbsp; &nbsp;I lubed it well with light oil.&nbsp; But it still seem stiff.&nbsp; I took the y axis apart and all parts seem to slide smooth independently.&nbsp; but when I reassembled...it seems a bit stiff as an assembly.&nbsp; I futzed with the tension and now I wonder if the belts are too tight<br />#3&nbsp; how do you gauge belt tension<br />#4&nbsp; any ideas of how to loosen up the y-axis<br />( I know that #4 could be a hundred different answers...give me a couple of top choices please)<br />#5&nbsp; is light oil (like 3 in 1) the right choice?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[joepayette]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/11310/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-07-05T18:13:37Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: PLA troubles - strange]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Retraction is kind of dependent on the setup you have (hotend &amp; extruder type) and the material being used. </p><p>A direct drive system shouldn&#039;t really need all that much, but a bowden can require a fair bit more. </p><p>For most materials my direct drive E3Ds use less than 1mm - some materials do require a little bit more (nylon), but not by very much.<br />One the other hand, the kossel with a bowden system and an E3D is more like 4-5mm.</p><p>different hot ends will have different settings.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[heartless]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/10399/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-06-25T19:24:45Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: PLA troubles - strange]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all the tips.&nbsp; I&#039;ve got more information that I think is part of my problem.</p><p>I&#039;ve had several successful runs, but they are always hollow parts which means to me that I might be having a problem with retraction.&nbsp; The hollow parts have minimal to almost no retraction events.</p><p>what sort of number in slic3r should I be using?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[joepayette]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/11310/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-06-22T15:46:25Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/124436/#p124436</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: PLA troubles - strange]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Vref sets the current limit that drives the motor.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[carl_m1968]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/7731/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-06-14T21:45:18Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: PLA troubles - strange]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I increased the retract from 2 to 3 and upped the Vref.&nbsp; Can you explain what is changing with Vref?</p><br /><p>PLA seems to be doing better</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[joepayette]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/11310/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-06-14T20:37:09Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: PLA troubles - strange]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Use a non conductive screw driver.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2291/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-06-13T19:04:07Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: PLA troubles - strange]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>1/16th to start with</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2291/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-06-13T19:03:46Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: PLA troubles - strange]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I updated the firmware.&nbsp; correctly I believe</p><p>I see the pot ( I think)</p><p>1/4 turn, 1/8 turn?<br /><span class="postimg"><img src="http://soliforum.com/i/?ZpodQ3a.jpg" alt="http://soliforum.com/i/?ZpodQ3a.jpg" /></span></p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[joepayette]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/11310/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-06-13T19:01:45Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: PLA troubles - strange]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The stinging could just be that the temp was too cool as you pulled the filament out.&nbsp; It&#039;s not uncommon to see that.&nbsp; Every filament is different.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2291/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-06-13T18:22:25Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: PLA troubles - strange]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>VREF (reference voltage) is adjusted for each motor on the drivers located on the board.&nbsp; Each has a small POT that can be adjusted.&nbsp; If your motor isn&#039;t getting hot (it shouldn&#039;t) but is stalling, then it&#039;s possible the VREF needs to be turned up (CW) just a tiny bit.&nbsp; Or it could be that the temp is simply too cold for that particular filament.&nbsp; When you installed the V6 did you set the thermistor type to 5 in the firmware flash?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2291/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-06-13T18:20:24Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/124087/#p124087</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: PLA troubles - strange]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Where is the VREF.&nbsp; is that in the board programming?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[joepayette]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/11310/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-06-13T18:14:23Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/124086/#p124086</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: PLA troubles - strange]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Wardjr.&nbsp; I&#039;ve got a fan on the motor and does not get hot to touch.&nbsp; That stringing must not look wrong..huh?</p><p>I&#039;m perplexed</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[joepayette]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/11310/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-06-13T17:37:04Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: PLA troubles - strange]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Is the extruder motor getting hot?&nbsp; Might need to increase your&nbsp; VREF slightly.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2291/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-06-13T15:45:29Z</updated>
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