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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: 1mm vertical surfaces too thick.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#039;m guessing it may be easier to roll back a few versions of Slic3r.&nbsp; Try 1.0.0RC3. That is still my favorite version.&nbsp; It simply does what you&#039;d expect.&nbsp; If you do that note that infill is stated as a number between 0-1 instead of a percentage.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-06-09T21:37:55Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: 1mm vertical surfaces too thick.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>wardjr wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The ultimate answer is to design in multiples of .48<br />I have been doing design that way for years now.&nbsp; Yes, once you get over a few mm in thickness it will be less important.&nbsp; But on the small stuff it can really help.</p></blockquote></div><p>Unfortunately, even with the multiple of .48, it tries to do infill unless I tell it to do 0 infill. But that would mess up the other parts of the model that actually needs infill.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[pwlars]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/14548/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-06-09T19:30:24Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>So, just to see how it would come out, I grabbed the latest version of Cura and tried to use it for the 1mm-sided rectangle test. I left the layer thickness at .2, flow % at 90, infill at 50% and the perimeter width I set to .4 (it requires it to be a multiple of the nozzle size, so I figure this would be the best way to tell it to do one perimeter).</p><p>For starters, it really tried hard to do infill, doing a back and forth pattern across the 1mm walls. This resulted in a horrible looking print with gobs of plastic all over the sides. It was not nice and smooth like what I get with slic3r. Much to my amazement though, the walls are *much* closer to 1mm! I get measurements from .97-1.12 but it&#039;s hard to find good spots because of the horrible gobs of plastic all over it.&nbsp; Where I can find good spots, they are all right at 1.00mm</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[pwlars]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/14548/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-06-09T19:29:23Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: 1mm vertical surfaces too thick.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The ultimate answer is to design in multiples of .48<br />I have been doing design that way for years now.&nbsp; Yes, once you get over a few mm in thickness it will be less important.&nbsp; But on the small stuff it can really help.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2291/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-06-09T17:18:53Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#039;s a bug, see my post above.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[jagowilson]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/7321/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-06-09T16:59:04Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: 1mm vertical surfaces too thick.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>wardjr wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>So what happens when you specify 1 perimeter with no infill?&nbsp; (Just as a test)<br />It should be a quick print.&nbsp; I have no doubts that If I had a machine with a .40 nozzle in it and printed what my slicer generated, it would come out almost perfect.</p><p>Or alternately draw up the same rectangle with a .96 wall thickness and see what that print looks like.</p></blockquote></div><p>Interesting, I made a similar model with .96 wall thickness all the way around. If I do *any* infill, it still shows a third path. Perhaps because of infill overlap? I have this currently set to 15%.&nbsp; As a quick test though, I did try setting the infill to 0 with this model, confirmed there were only 2 paths, one for each perimeter.&nbsp; The measurements I&#039;m getting all the way around are almost exactly 1.00mm!&nbsp; This is a neat trick, but it makes me think even more that I&#039;m going to need to print something much thicker to get consistent results.&nbsp; I also tried one at 1.5mm and it comes out to more like 1.8mm all the way around. I suspect as that thickness gets higher, I&#039;ll get better results, but that&#039;s not really what I&#039;m shooting for here.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[pwlars]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/14548/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-06-09T16:57:35Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve noticed this same issue. The newer version of Slic3r in my experience will add an additional perimeter when you&#039;re dealing with a shelled object. I&#039;ve only succeeded in getting 1 or 3 perimeters, but never just the 2 that I want. I suspect it&#039;s a bug, because it happens even when &quot;generate extra perimeters&quot; is disabled. It can really screw with your head, and it definitely messes up dimensions.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[jagowilson]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-06-09T16:56:39Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>So what happens when you specify 1 perimeter with no infill?&nbsp; (Just as a test)<br />It should be a quick print.&nbsp; I have no doubts that If I had a machine with a .40 nozzle in it and printed what my slicer generated, it would come out almost perfect.</p><p>Or alternately draw up the same rectangle with a .96 wall thickness and see what that print looks like.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-06-09T16:25:44Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>wardjr wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>This is the result I get when I slice it at 50% and 100%.&nbsp; What version of Slic3r are you running?<br /><span class="postimg"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/T4rVNt8l.png" alt="http://i.imgur.com/T4rVNt8l.png" /></span></p></blockquote></div><p>1.2.9 from Ubuntu Xenial. The three separate paths are easier to see when I look at the layers tab.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[pwlars]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-06-09T16:19:13Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I did get the .stl loaded when you select a file you need to also select upload file afterwards.&nbsp; It is sometimes a bit finicky.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-06-09T16:18:56Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>This is the result I get when I slice it at 50% and 100%.&nbsp; What version of Slic3r are you running?<br /><span class="postimg"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/T4rVNt8l.png" alt="http://i.imgur.com/T4rVNt8l.png" /></span></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-06-09T16:15:20Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>all the images are showing is the smoothness compared to your image.&nbsp; I resized them so hopefully that helps.&nbsp; Not sure why imgur made the first ones so huge.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2291/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-06-09T16:07:27Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Just to help put that other picture into perspective. <br /><span class="postimg"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/JvNVYMbl.jpg" alt="http://i.imgur.com/JvNVYMbl.jpg" /></span></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-06-09T15:57:20Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: 1mm vertical surfaces too thick.]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.soliforum.com/post/123942/#p123942" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Ok, let&#039;s try a different way to send you the file: <a href="http://expirebox.com/download/ffc62db67d3d7018a11ccf4ba27b1bd3.html">http://expirebox.com/download/ffc62db67 … b1bd3.html</a></p><p>I&#039;m using 2mm layer height, .4 nozzle diameter, 1 perimeter, 50% infill.</p><p>I&#039;m not really sure what your image is showing me, but the reason I was thinking the infill would be an issue is that if the perimeter walls come out to .48mm, then there would be a .04mm gap between them unless it does *something*.&nbsp; When I show the layers in slic3r, I distinctly see 3 paths at each layer - one for each perimeter and 1 in the middle to fill in the gap that would exist there.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[pwlars]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/14548/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-06-09T15:56:26Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I drew up what I think you have there and even at 100% infill Slic3r doesn&#039;t try and fill in between the perimeters.<br />Here&#039;s a picture very close up of what the side of your print should look like.&nbsp; This is at .3mm layer height with a .60 nozzle.&nbsp; This is to help you visualize what I am saying about mechanical slop.<br /><span class="postimg"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/ks7Tmd2m.jpg" alt="http://i.imgur.com/ks7Tmd2m.jpg" /></span></p><p>If you get me your .stl (it didn&#039;t show up) and settings (just perimeters, infill and layer height) I will try and duplicate your print to help troubleshoot the cause of your problems.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-06-09T15:43:25Z</updated>
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