Note also that new hotends will ship with these as of today.
These are really nice, I've been using them for a couple months now actually as a beta tester. Better than the "stud" style thermistors as these are good to 295C, and fully encapsulated by the heater block for more accurate sensing.
Boots are still a few weeks out.
]]>REINZOSIL sealer ....works for me
]]>Yes, cartridge based thermistor will be used on Volcano. There will also be silicone boots available for Volcano as well.
Woots for boots!
]]>Yes, cartridge based thermistor will be used on Volcano. There will also be silicone boots available for Volcano as well.
]]>Also, is the volcano heater block being upgraded to take the the new thermistor too?
]]>Cartridge based thermistors are more accurate, as they are not affected by ambient temperatures or airflow from cooling fans.
This setup E3D is moving to is also less expensive to manufacture as compared to maintaining two block types (cartridge based PT100 and screw in based thermistor blocks).
Finally the epoxy in those screw in thermistors starts to degrade over 260C, contrary to the optimistic ratings on the page.
I was actually thinking to make one for myself using silicone rated for over 285 C or thermal cement for even higher (not sure about thermal conductivity though). But I can see a cartridge being more accurate since it wouldn't be exposed.
]]>This setup E3D is moving to is also less expensive to manufacture as compared to maintaining two block types (cartridge based PT100 and screw in based thermistor blocks).
Finally the epoxy in those screw in thermistors starts to degrade over 260C, contrary to the optimistic ratings on the page.
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Hopefully its a little cheaper than the PT100 sensor, $45 seems kinda steep. Will you also offer a version of the V6 full kit that comes with these new parts instead of the old ones, or gotta buy a regular kit and add on the new parts?
Well the $45 you mention includes a PT100 sensor (capable of 400C), PT100 amplifier board, and the heater block. In your case you'd only need a thermistor cartridge (price TBD, but likely $5-10) and the heater block ($18).
Once these parts are released, all v6 kits (at least the ones I sell) will be with the new parts by default.
]]>The "v6" lives on, I have not heard plans for a "v7".
Don't fix it if it ain't broke! 
The insulator sounds awesome especially for people switching materials and stressing their machine's speed capabilities with PLA. Certainly seems like E3D is trying to fine tune for a full spectrum.
]]>mdrVB6 wrote:Wow, thanks for the info! How is it secured to the heater block? Press in and friction? And is that a different heater block than the current one? I don't see the hole for the screw that holds the old thermistor in. The heater block insulator is interesting too. I guess it somewhat helps it maintain a steady temp. Also keeps some mess off your heater block but I stopped worrying about that a long time ago. Colors other than baby blue would be nice.
The thermistor cartridge is held in my a grub screw from the side. These heater blocks are the same as what is currently used for PT100 sensors:
http://www.filastruder.com/collections/ … 100-sensor
The insulator is there for keeping polymer off the heater block and keeping print cooling fans from influencing the temperature of the heater block. Additionally it eliminates thermal radiation from the heater block, improving things like bridging, overhangs, and small features in PLA.
Hopefully its a little cheaper than the PT100 sensor, $45 seems kinda steep. Will you also offer a version of the V6 full kit that comes with these new parts instead of the old ones, or gotta buy a regular kit and add on the new parts?
]]>Wow, thanks for the info! How is it secured to the heater block? Press in and friction? And is that a different heater block than the current one? I don't see the hole for the screw that holds the old thermistor in. The heater block insulator is interesting too. I guess it somewhat helps it maintain a steady temp. Also keeps some mess off your heater block but I stopped worrying about that a long time ago. Colors other than baby blue would be nice.
The thermistor cartridge is held in my a grub screw from the side. These heater blocks are the same as what is currently used for PT100 sensors:
http://www.filastruder.com/collections/ … 100-sensor
The insulator is there for keeping polymer off the heater block and keeping print cooling fans from influencing the temperature of the heater block. Additionally it eliminates thermal radiation from the heater block, improving things like bridging, overhangs, and small features in PLA.
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