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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Extruder Stepper Motor 17PM-K142B]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Just for update on the Stepper motor wiring </p><p>For the titan e3d Nema 17 pancake motor </p><p>Wire Code using the xyz davinci wire harness </p><p>1) RED<br />2) Blank<br />3) Orange<br />4) Yellow<br />5) Blank<br />6) Blue</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[i0dine]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/16883/</uri>
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			<updated>2017-08-25T16:34:22Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Extruder Stepper Motor 17PM-K142B]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>viperz28 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I was also given this link to search for stepper motors</p><p><a href="http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en/motors-solenoids-driver-boards-modules/stepper-motors/983126?k=&amp;s=52251&amp;FV=fff4000f%2Cfff80056&amp;mnonly=0&amp;newproducts=0&amp;ColumnSort=0&amp;page=1&amp;quantity=0&amp;ptm=0&amp;fid=0&amp;pageSize=25">http://www.digikey.com/product-search/e … ageSize=25</a></p></blockquote></div><br /><p>It looks like you kept the 4-pin connector that came with the pancake - did you just put the exposed ends into a 6 pin molex header or is there some cleverer way to mate things up?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wiley]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/14431/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-05-18T05:17:58Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Extruder Stepper Motor 17PM-K142B]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I was also given this link to search for stepper motors</p><p><a href="http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en/motors-solenoids-driver-boards-modules/stepper-motors/983126?k=&amp;s=52251&amp;FV=fff4000f%2Cfff80056&amp;mnonly=0&amp;newproducts=0&amp;ColumnSort=0&amp;page=1&amp;quantity=0&amp;ptm=0&amp;fid=0&amp;pageSize=25">http://www.digikey.com/product-search/e … ageSize=25</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[viperz28]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/5990/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-04-28T15:53:32Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Extruder Stepper Motor 17PM-K142B]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>TPU, all is well so far</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://soliforum.com/i/?6qUzpMF.jpg" alt="http://soliforum.com/i/?6qUzpMF.jpg" /></span><br /><span class="postimg"><img src="http://soliforum.com/i/?u5FREPM.jpg" alt="http://soliforum.com/i/?u5FREPM.jpg" /></span><br /><span class="postimg"><img src="http://soliforum.com/i/?MxYMaAo.jpg" alt="http://soliforum.com/i/?MxYMaAo.jpg" /></span></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[viperz28]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/5990/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-04-27T19:10:08Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Extruder Stepper Motor 17PM-K142B]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>That&#039;s strange, I was able to print petg with the stock extruder and stock hotend (modded with heatsinks) no problem.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[scobo]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/6872/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-04-25T07:26:08Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Extruder Stepper Motor 17PM-K142B]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Printing ABS is not a challenge - I&#039;m printing PETG at low temperatures and have massive trouble with not sufficient torque! </p><p>The titan got a 3:1 gear that is correct but 3 x 13 is only 39 Ncm - that is just 1Ncm more than the stock motor that got 38 Ncm!</p><p>When I would have the chance to tripple my extruder torque I would use this chance and not give it up by changing to a smaller motor! But this is just my opinion - if this small motor works for you purpose it&#039;s good!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Hecot]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/13821/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-04-25T07:12:35Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s working, printing ABS with no clicking</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9tu6o1JXIA">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9tu6o1JXIA</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[viperz28]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/5990/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-04-25T04:14:00Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Extruder Stepper Motor 17PM-K142B]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>the advantage will be lower weight. Which means you can print faster.<br />and as has been said there is a gear reduction so it will be fine. (assuming your using the titan)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[mark.burton]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/10955/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-04-25T00:28:42Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Extruder Stepper Motor 17PM-K142B]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>ssauntson wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Hecot wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Why you want to change to a lower torque motor? </p><p>The XYZ stock stepper motor got <strong>38Ncm</strong> and you want to change to a <strong>13Ncm</strong> motor - I can&#039;t imagine any reason??? Even with the stock motor I have trouble with too less torque when printing at lower temperatures and I&#039;m thinking about changing to a <em>higher</em> torque motor than the stock type! </p><p><a href="https://shop.stoutwind.de/Nema-17-Schrittmotor-17HS5425-18-Schrittwinkel-48-mm-hoch-48-Ncm-Haltemoment">https://shop.stoutwind.de/Nema-17-Schri … altemoment</a></p><p>13Ncm is very low for the extruder and I will forcast a lot of issues with extruder clicking!</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>To answer the above, as the Titan as a 3:1 gearing, you only need 1/3 of the torque so 13Ncm should be sufficient</p><p>Simples</p></blockquote></div><p>That&#039;s good to hear, thanks for clearing that up.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[scobo]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/6872/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-04-24T17:25:25Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Extruder Stepper Motor 17PM-K142B]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>ssauntson wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>viperz28 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The first step succeeded, the wiring is correct and I was able to load filament without any issues. I ordered the wrong connector so I made a hack jumper for now. I will try and print something later on today and see how it goes, it regard to torque, I too did not think too much about that. One thing I did notice is that filament did not extrude from the nozzle as fast as it did, it may have just been me....I will video it and see what you guys think.</p><p>In my tests I will be sure to listen for clicking, which filament or print would be a good test?</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>You say the filament extrudes slower? Have you calibrated the stepper motor, stock Extruder steps are around 99.00, with the Titan this raises to around 456.00. This needs to be changed in Repetier.</p><p>Regards</p></blockquote></div><p>Thanks, I forgot that step. </p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[viperz28]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/5990/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-04-24T17:01:07Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Extruder Stepper Motor 17PM-K142B]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Hecot wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Why you want to change to a lower torque motor? </p><p>The XYZ stock stepper motor got <strong>38Ncm</strong> and you want to change to a <strong>13Ncm</strong> motor - I can&#039;t imagine any reason??? Even with the stock motor I have trouble with too less torque when printing at lower temperatures and I&#039;m thinking about changing to a <em>higher</em> torque motor than the stock type! </p><p><a href="https://shop.stoutwind.de/Nema-17-Schrittmotor-17HS5425-18-Schrittwinkel-48-mm-hoch-48-Ncm-Haltemoment">https://shop.stoutwind.de/Nema-17-Schri … altemoment</a></p><p>13Ncm is very low for the extruder and I will forcast a lot of issues with extruder clicking!</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>To answer the above, as the Titan as a 3:1 gearing, you only need 1/3 of the torque so 13Ncm should be sufficient</p><p>Simples</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ssauntson]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/7746/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-04-24T16:52:12Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>viperz28 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The first step succeeded, the wiring is correct and I was able to load filament without any issues. I ordered the wrong connector so I made a hack jumper for now. I will try and print something later on today and see how it goes, it regard to torque, I too did not think too much about that. One thing I did notice is that filament did not extrude from the nozzle as fast as it did, it may have just been me....I will video it and see what you guys think.</p><p>In my tests I will be sure to listen for clicking, which filament or print would be a good test?</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>You say the filament extrudes slower? Have you calibrated the stepper motor, stock Extruder steps are around 99.00, with the Titan this raises to around 456.00. This needs to be changed in Repetier.</p><p>Regards</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ssauntson]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/7746/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-04-24T16:35:37Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Probably best to start off with some regular pla or abs although I guess flexible will be the ultimate test for it.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[scobo]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/6872/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-04-24T16:30:50Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The first step succeeded, the wiring is correct and I was able to load filament without any issues. I ordered the wrong connector so I made a hack jumper for now. I will try and print something later on today and see how it goes, it regard to torque, I too did not think too much about that. One thing I did notice is that filament did not extrude from the nozzle as fast as it did, it may have just been me....I will video it and see what you guys think.</p><p>In my tests I will be sure to listen for clicking, which filament or print would be a good test?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[viperz28]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/5990/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-04-24T16:20:03Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>To be perfectly honest, I hadn&#039;t even given torque a thought.<br />Bare in mind though, we&#039;re talking about using this stepper with the E3D Titan, not the stock extruder.<br />We&#039;ll see how viperz28 gets on with it. I believe someone else is already using it with no issues as he said in the first post of this thread.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[scobo]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/6872/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-04-24T14:47:14Z</updated>
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