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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: need help to chose my next printer]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>If you are ok with PLA and 910 nylon instead of ABS, then the Robo 3D R1 <a href="http://robo3d.com">http://robo3d.com</a> is a low maintenance and reliable printer with a large build volume and all metal extruder for $800.&nbsp; It looks like there&#039;s a &quot;plus&quot; model out now, but I&#039;ve only used the older one.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[hairu526]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4789/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-03-29T03:20:22Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: need help to chose my next printer]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I&#039;m aware of Tom&#039;s review. I said that cracks have not occurred as a result of *use*, not shipping damage (which was the case for Tom&#039;s). I have followed the BigBox closely, as a Kickstarter backer and a moderator on their forums. </p><p>My point about the hotends is that Atom&#039;s offers no advantage over a dirt cheap Lite6. The E3Dv6 does not have a PTFE liner in the hot zone, so it is different (and better) than the Atom design. The other items you pointed out (general shape, etc) offer no actual advantage in use.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[elmoret]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/221/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-03-28T14:06:07Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: need help to chose my next printer]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>This review say otherwise </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkkVk8c8XoU">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkkVk8c8XoU</a> </p><p>Acrylic is brittle full stop.&nbsp; Bigger part more chance to crack.</p><p>The Atom hot end is not just a titanium thing with ptfe.&nbsp; what I do like is the ceramic heater and&nbsp; The position of the termistor&nbsp; + the general shape.</p><p>I have the ed6 all metal (not the lite) and there is the PTFE liner too. So what yours argument there ?</p><p>I&#039;m not compairing the big box to the atom. Not the same ligue. </p><p>But again the price is hard to beat (big box). I&#039;m considering but need more data.</p><p> I have 2 printer that I&nbsp; bought oversee (I live in france) and all had problem with shipping. one was a kit; the other was build.<br />I realy fear for the transport.</p><p>More I have not seen user printed part. and can it print 24/7 ? ultimaker can do it, atom too. </p><p>Do anybody know any&nbsp; good Core xY kit&nbsp; ?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[sigiel]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2977/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-03-28T13:39:31Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: need help to chose my next printer]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Why is acrylic meh? No one has reported any cracking from use. It is also 2/3rds the price of even your Atom deal.&nbsp; </p><p>Titanium offers no benefits at all when you slide a PTFE liner down the inside. That hotend is functionally equal to a $35 Lite6.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[elmoret]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/221/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-03-28T08:15:05Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: need help to chose my next printer]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>thank for the link, </p><p>I have seen a youtube review of the aldi... good printer but not in the same cat as ultimaker and the atom 2</p><p>I have been contacted by the atom 2 sale manager, who offered me a very tempting deal...</p><p>to preorder and beta test the atom 2.5 (heated bed+ dual feed extruder as well as slight design changes)</p><p>for 1800$ pretty sweet. i have seen the ultimaker, and recently learn that there hot&nbsp; end have part that you have to change evry x print (some insulation stuff) that is a big no&nbsp; no.</p><p>I did not get the formlab for this exact reason. So no ultimaker ...</p><p>I will take the atom 2.5 but they ship by mid june, so with the saving (about 800) I&#039;m looking for someting that will&nbsp; till then</p><p>print in 0.1 easly. <br />a heated bed <br />20x20x?? print surface.<br />may be dual extruder? <br />and can print&nbsp; 24/7 or close </p><p>The bigbox seem to fit the bill, but acrylic is meh, and the printing 24/7 is unknown.</p><p>the robox is not tall enought, and the all automated is kinda sucpisious for me.</p><p>the duplicator look nice but I cannot take both the atom and the dupli...</p><p>I realy looked and the atom seem to be a one of the kind. but what convinced me was the video showing the hot end assembly.<br />that a very sexy hotend... Titanium....</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPo0glnRIy8...">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPo0glnRIy8...</a></p><p>I still have a week to decide though.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[sigiel]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2977/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-03-28T05:42:43Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: need help to chose my next printer]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Nah, it has a heated bed and can print PLA / ABS / PVA / HIPS</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Heartlander]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2447/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-03-24T00:27:09Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: need help to chose my next printer]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>n2ri wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>and its $500 but very skimpy design PLA only with no way to close out cold air</p></blockquote></div><p>not true - where there is a will, there is a way. <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p><p>have seen a lot of people using Ikea end tables to make enclosures for similar printers</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[heartless]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/10399/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-03-23T20:11:07Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: need help to chose my next printer]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>and its $500 but very skimpy design PLA only with no way to close out cold air</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[n2ri]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/795/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-03-23T16:44:32Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: need help to chose my next printer]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I don&#039;t make the news, I just report it. Actually the Maker Muse guy seems pretty impressed with the WANHAO/Aldi unit. But, Aldi only sells them in Australia for now. No jokes about them putting their printer &quot;down under&quot;.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Heartlander]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2447/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-03-23T16:31:21Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: need help to chose my next printer]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Heartlander wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The ALDI printer (the grocery store ALDI)...</p></blockquote></div><p><img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/lol.png" width="15" height="15" alt="lol" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[widespreaddeadhead]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/9121/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-03-23T14:04:41Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: need help to chose my next printer]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Heartlander wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The ALDI printer (the grocery store ALDI) is a relabeled WANHAO i3</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>LMAO are you kidding? Aldi also sells 3D printers with the electronic junk isle too? they should just stick to food items, same for Savealot stores that merged with Deals used to be Dollar deals, now both stores share products lol. too funny</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[n2ri]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/795/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-03-23T06:23:18Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The ALDI printer (the grocery store ALDI) is a relabeled WANHAO i3</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Heartlander]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2447/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-03-23T04:27:24Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: need help to chose my next printer]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.soliforum.com/post/119748/#p119748" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Heartlander wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><a href="http://wanhaousa.com/products/duplicator-5s-steel-exoframe">http://wanhaousa.com/products/duplicato … l-exoframe</a></p></blockquote></div><p>I don&#039;t have hard evidence but based on my machine and the fact that all the parts a Wanhao supplier sales will fit it, my guess is that that the company that actually makes Wanhao is the same one that makes CTC. I say this because proprietary parts that they use are identical and fit like a glove.</p><p>I think CT&#039;c, the original and not the CTC the copycats that sold under this CTC umbrella got tired of the copy cats and rebranded to Wanhao to set them selves apart from the many cloners.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[carl_m1968]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/7731/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-03-22T22:41:49Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://wanhaousa.com/products/duplicator-5s-steel-exoframe">http://wanhaousa.com/products/duplicato … l-exoframe</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Heartlander]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2447/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-03-22T22:20:26Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Sigiel, how big does the build space need to be? That might be an issue with Robox at 8&quot; x 6&quot; x 4&quot; but, if not, you&#039;ll be hard pressed to find a nicer printer for &lt;$1500. It makes excellent prints quickly and dependably. You don&#039;t have to dink with it, it just works, right out of the box. Lots of cool engineering there.</p><p><a href="http://www.cel-robox.com/technical/">http://www.cel-robox.com/technical/</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Heartlander]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2447/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-03-22T21:52:35Z</updated>
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