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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Need help With PLA]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Nice one !<br />Enjoy your jam-free, high quality printing. <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[scobo]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-02-27T07:49:51Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Need help With PLA]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Wow!!!!! 5 hrs later and just finished. It wasn&#039;t bad but it wasn&#039;t fun either. Everything seems to work great. going to run a print first thing tomorrow. I too just used the stock 5v fan and installed a layer fan.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[zoeconner]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-02-27T03:05:49Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Need help With PLA]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I am using the stock davinci fan for my layer fan it works fine</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[mark.burton]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-02-26T21:24:18Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Need help With PLA]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Telemachus wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Is 5 volts on a 40 millimeter fan enough to keep the layer cool?</p></blockquote></div><p>Not sure about that one, I&#039;ve only ever used 12v.<br />I&#039;m sure some of the guys over on the Voltivo forum have tapped 12v from the mainboard.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[scobo]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-02-26T20:48:04Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Need help With PLA]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The 5V control for the stock extruder fan could still be used to control a 12 volt layer fan by means of a simple transistor.&nbsp; </p><p>It would have to be a transistor that works in the 0 to 5V range, and would need a current limiting resistor on the gate.</p><p>Is 5 volts on a 40 millimeter fan enough to keep the layer cool?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Telemachus]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/13355/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-02-26T20:29:58Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Need help With PLA]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>scobo wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>mark.burton wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>buy the real deal. a clone will have a Bowden adapter that is required to be used most times as well. the real deal will work with a bowden or direct with out having to have the Bowden adapter (for 1.75 mm anyway).</p><p>I try and support the people doing the innovation so I like buying genuine. my e3d v6 and my cyclops are genuine I got them from matterhakers</p></blockquote></div><p>Totally agree.<br />Be careful tapping into the 12v. I&#039;ve heard of people wrecking the mainboard attempting that.<br />It was for that reason I used an external 12v power supply for my E3D fan.</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>I used this adapter so I did not have to touch anything directly on the original for the 12 v source.&nbsp; I ended up using t-tap type connectors to &quot;tap&quot; into the lines on the extension.</p><p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-8-Inch-ATX12V-Extension-ATXP4EXT/dp/B000O7WFHA/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1456512640&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=4+pin+motherboard+power+cable">http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-8-In … ower+cable</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[mpoffo]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/8374/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-02-26T18:52:50Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Need help With PLA]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, only 5v on the stock fan.<br />That was why I went with an external 12v power supply.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[scobo]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/6872/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-02-26T18:21:49Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Need help With PLA]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I just printed a holder for a 40mm fan, ordered the fan off Amazon and should be here on Saturday ($6 shipped).</p><p>These are just standard CPU/PC fans, and have a 3 pin connector with red,yellow, and black wires.&nbsp; Red is your positive voltage (could be anything up to about 12V).&nbsp; Black is negative/GND.&nbsp; The yellow wire is a tachometer/RPM sensor.</p><p>This color scheme can be confusing, because usually yellow wires in a computer are +12V.</p><p>They are variable fans, meaning the more voltage you supply, the faster they turn.&nbsp; Motherboards control them by turning them up and down as needed to match a set RPM.</p><p>If you hook the red and black up to constant voltage, and ignore the yellow, it will just run continuously.</p><p>More interesting would be to hook it up to the fan sensor on the extruder, and be able to control the speed with G-code.&nbsp; I don&#039;t know for sure, but I think the extruder fan runs off 5 volts, so you won&#039;t get the full power of the fan.</p><p>Someone else who has done that mod might be able to chime in.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Telemachus]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-02-26T17:55:09Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Need help With PLA]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I take it you mean a layer fan.<br />They are useful when printing small, thin objects and for bridging and especially with pla.<br />I used a spare 12v dc adapter I had lying around. Just a case of soldering the +/- wires to the fans wires. <br />I use these connectors which makes the job childs play ..... <a href="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WHITE-HEAT-SHRINK-SOLDER-SLEEVES-ELECTRICAL-WIRE-TERMINALS-NON-CRIMP-CONNECTOR-/281708720820?var=&amp;hash=item0">http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WHITE-HEAT-SH … hash=item0</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[scobo]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-02-26T08:23:58Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Need help With PLA]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>After this upgrade should I put on a filament fan? Anyone use one? I&#039;m still worried about finding the right voltage.&nbsp; How do you set up a external power supply. Like a LC power supply?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[zoeconner]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/10303/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-02-26T02:52:01Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>No, I switched to repetier before fitting the E3D.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[scobo]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-02-25T17:14:54Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Need help With PLA]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>scobo did you run factory firmware with your e3d?</p><p>I love the e3d ive got ony ramps da vinci and want to add it to my stocker, but I dont want to give up the easy file transfer with s3d my stock da vinci has by going to repetier</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[robertf]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/10400/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-02-25T15:26:51Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Need help With PLA]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>mark.burton wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>buy the real deal. a clone will have a Bowden adapter that is required to be used most times as well. the real deal will work with a bowden or direct with out having to have the Bowden adapter (for 1.75 mm anyway).</p><p>I try and support the people doing the innovation so I like buying genuine. my e3d v6 and my cyclops are genuine I got them from matterhakers</p></blockquote></div><p>Totally agree.<br />Be careful tapping into the 12v. I&#039;ve heard of people wrecking the mainboard attempting that.<br />It was for that reason I used an external 12v power supply for my E3D fan.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[scobo]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/6872/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-02-25T07:45:52Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The main connecters on the mother board you will see +12 v and gnd tap into those.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[mark.burton]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/10955/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-02-25T01:59:37Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s being shipped now.&nbsp; &nbsp;I printed the STL files and thinking about tearing down the printer.&nbsp; I need to find 12 V somewhere right?&nbsp; Anyone know where one is on the board on the 1.0?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[zoeconner]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-02-25T01:48:04Z</updated>
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