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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, you don&#039;t need to replace the alum bed at all, just put kapton tape over it.&nbsp; I am using that now and have had no issues with sticking on either PLA or ABS.&nbsp; I use the old trick of the UHU glue stick on the tape and it all works great.</p><br /><br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>Skyblue wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>ruzzzolo wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Im evaluating the option of replacing the alu bed with a glass. <br />It doesn&#039;t seem to difficult, only four screws: I hope that the warming plate is not glued to the alu bed.<br />Suggestions about the operation and the glass type?<br />tks</p></blockquote></div><p> \</p><p>You don&#039;t need to replace the aluminum bed, just place glass or mirror on top and secure with clips.&nbsp; You will then have to run the z-offset feature to reset the z distance between the new surface and the hot end.&nbsp; Run the calibrate function first to level the bed, as function won&#039;t work with the glass or mirror on top...</p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[sfraden]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/9216/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-01-26T19:12:33Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Da Vinci 1.0 PRO Unboxing & Impressions]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>ruzzzolo wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Im evaluating the option of replacing the alu bed with a glass. <br />It doesn&#039;t seem to difficult, only four screws: I hope that the warming plate is not glued to the alu bed.<br />Suggestions about the operation and the glass type?<br />tks</p></blockquote></div><p> \</p><p>You don&#039;t need to replace the aluminum bed, just place glass or mirror on top and secure with clips.&nbsp; You will then have to run the z-offset feature to reset the z distance between the new surface and the hot end.&nbsp; Run the calibrate function first to level the bed, as function won&#039;t work with the glass or mirror on top...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Skyblue]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/614/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-01-26T13:08:09Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>underwoodle wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Skyblue wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I also don&#039;t like the tape on bed method, and have changed to an 8 x 8&quot; mirror I found.&nbsp; Its perfectly flat, and I have tried glue sticks, hairspray, abs slurry, but the best way I have found to keep objects from unsticking, or curling is to use some Oatey PVC, ABS glue found at the hardware store.&nbsp; I use the clear, the kind with the little brush inside the can.&nbsp; Usually used to glue PVC pipe together.&nbsp; This stuff works great, just spread a coat on surface, and print.&nbsp; Will not lift, and comes off great after the bed cools a little.&nbsp; A lot easier and neater than ABS slurry, which also works well, just messy.&nbsp; Give it a shot!</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>I&#039;ve found several different varieties of this product.&nbsp; Can you be more specific?&nbsp; </p><p>Thanks,</p></blockquote></div><p>Yeah, it is Oatey Clear Pvc Abs all purpose cement.&nbsp; Can says for PVC, CPVC, and ABS.&nbsp; Check at Ace or Home Depot or any hardware store.&nbsp; Note: Don&#039;t use this directly on the aluminum bed, use on glass on top or mirror.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Skyblue]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/614/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-01-26T13:05:58Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Skyblue wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I also don&#039;t like the tape on bed method, and have changed to an 8 x 8&quot; mirror I found.&nbsp; Its perfectly flat, and I have tried glue sticks, hairspray, abs slurry, but the best way I have found to keep objects from unsticking, or curling is to use some Oatey PVC, ABS glue found at the hardware store.&nbsp; I use the clear, the kind with the little brush inside the can.&nbsp; Usually used to glue PVC pipe together.&nbsp; This stuff works great, just spread a coat on surface, and print.&nbsp; Will not lift, and comes off great after the bed cools a little.&nbsp; A lot easier and neater than ABS slurry, which also works well, just messy.&nbsp; Give it a shot!</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>I&#039;ve found several different varieties of this product.&nbsp; Can you be more specific?&nbsp; </p><p>Thanks,</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[underwoodle]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/13429/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-01-25T22:37:40Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>ruzzzolo wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>sfraden wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Before you go to that trouble, try using Kapton tape and glue stick; I&#039;m printing ABS with no issues using that.</p><p>If you do decide to change, then you MUST use borosilicate glass; its a tiny bit more expensive, but much stronger and should never crack.</p></blockquote></div><p>I tried this combination with very bad results. No way to print the second layer without disater.<br />Wich parameters do you use?</p></blockquote></div><p>Actually default parameters, using standard XYZ abs.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[sfraden]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/9216/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-01-12T15:38:28Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Da Vinci 1.0 PRO Unboxing & Impressions]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>sfraden wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Before you go to that trouble, try using Kapton tape and glue stick; I&#039;m printing ABS with no issues using that.</p><p>If you do decide to change, then you MUST use borosilicate glass; its a tiny bit more expensive, but much stronger and should never crack.</p></blockquote></div><p>I tried this combination with very bad results. No way to print the second layer without disater.<br />Wich parameters do you use?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ruzzzolo]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/12931/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-01-11T16:23:23Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>ruzzzolo wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Im evaluating the option of replacing the alu bed with a glass. <br />It doesn&#039;t seem to difficult, only four screws: I hope that the warming plate is not glued to the alu bed.<br />Suggestions about the operation and the glass type?<br />tks</p></blockquote></div><p>Before you go to that trouble, try using Kapton tape and glue stick; I&#039;m printing ABS with no issues using that.</p><p>If you do decide to change, then you MUST use borosilicate glass; its a tiny bit more expensive, but much stronger and should never crack.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2016-01-11T15:55:03Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Im evaluating the option of replacing the alu bed with a glass. <br />It doesn&#039;t seem to difficult, only four screws: I hope that the warming plate is not glued to the alu bed.<br />Suggestions about the operation and the glass type?<br />tks</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ruzzzolo]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/12931/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-01-11T13:23:44Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I also don&#039;t like the tape on bed method, and have changed to an 8 x 8&quot; mirror I found.&nbsp; Its perfectly flat, and I have tried glue sticks, hairspray, abs slurry, but the best way I have found to keep objects from unsticking, or curling is to use some Oatey PVC, ABS glue found at the hardware store.&nbsp; I use the clear, the kind with the little brush inside the can.&nbsp; Usually used to glue PVC pipe together.&nbsp; This stuff works great, just spread a coat on surface, and print.&nbsp; Will not lift, and comes off great after the bed cools a little.&nbsp; A lot easier and neater than ABS slurry, which also works well, just messy.&nbsp; Give it a shot!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Skyblue]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/614/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-01-11T13:08:35Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>reznor9 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I&#039;ve had good results using kapton tape and hairspray. Corners no longer lift. </p><p>As for the lines experienced after printing the print lines, it could be a sign that your extruder temperature is a bit too high if it&#039;s excreting/seeping filament when it&#039;s transferring the nozzle from one area to another. Try lowering the extruder temp by 5 degrees in the print settings on the xyzware and try again. If you still see it happening try lowering it another 5 degrees, etc..</p></blockquote></div><p>What kind of hairspray do you use? I tryed with kapton tape only without results.<br />I tryed different temperatures for the nozzle and for the bed, but nothing seems to work.<br />I&#039;m very disappointed becouse with the previous model with the glass bed I didn&#039; have these issues.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ruzzzolo]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/12931/</uri>
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			<updated>2016-01-11T12:33:29Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I used the ducky blue painters tape for a bit when printing in ABS with a combination of either glue stick or aqua net(hairspray worked better) and although it stuck to print amazingly well, the adhesive of the tape itself was lacking and if the piece decided it needed to warp it would pull the tape off the bed to accomplish it. So maybe a better tape would have adhered better to the bed and kept the edges down. I dunno. What I do know is the kapton tape does a much better job than either the included blue surface tape or the blue tape I purchased. But when printing double sided objects that lay flat on the kapton tape, the one side is so wonderfully smooth it makes the topside look like crap. Lol. Wish I could flip it like w pancake when one side was finished. Lol</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[reznor9]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/12717/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-12-21T17:12:24Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thank you all for suggestions, i&#039;m going to apply your tips then i will report for results.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ruzzzolo]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/12931/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-12-21T16:45:27Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>ruzzzolo wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Hello all first of all.<br />I&#039;ve just unboxed my 1.0 Pro and i have some doubt.....<br />Can you suggest me best parameters to avoid problems?<br />Thank you all for support.</p></blockquote></div><p>First off, never print directly to your aluminum bed, the surface is not perfectly smooth like glass is, and your prints will either not stick at all or become somewhat embedded in the ridges.&nbsp; Use tape on the surface.&nbsp; Blue painters tape for PLA, and standard masking tape for ABS.</p><p>I suggest replacing the tape every print, it should work fine that way.</p><p>If you want that smooth surface again, you can use kapton tape with your ABS.&nbsp; Its a little more expensive, but is smooth and stands up well to the heat.</p><p>ABS does have a tendency to shrink when cooling, that&#039;s why corners lift sometimes.&nbsp; A tiny dab of the glue stick on the tape will fix that issue, however the glue stick and tape are a bad mix as the heat causes the glue to sink into the making tape and hardens there, which can make getting your print off the bed quite a challenge.&nbsp; At least you don&#039;t have to worry about the glass cracking <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[sfraden]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/9216/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-12-21T15:53:50Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve had good results using kapton tape and hairspray. Corners no longer lift. </p><p>As for the lines experienced after printing the print lines, it could be a sign that your extruder temperature is a bit too high if it&#039;s excreting/seeping filament when it&#039;s transferring the nozzle from one area to another. Try lowering the extruder temp by 5 degrees in the print settings on the xyzware and try again. If you still see it happening try lowering it another 5 degrees, etc..</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[reznor9]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/12717/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-12-21T15:42:34Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hello all first of all.<br />I&#039;ve just unboxed my 1.0 Pro and i have some doubt.<br />I have to inform you that I&#039;m not very skilled on 3D printing, so my questions and doubts could be silly.<br />I used a XYZ 1.0 for a month before getting the PRO and i&#039;m finding some good and bad differences.<br />I appreciate the charging and the leveling systems, but i don&#039;t like the alu bed instead of glass.<br />With a perfectly cleaned glass i didn&#039;t need to apply tape or glue to stick the objects on the bed and the lower surface resulted glossy and flat.<br />With the alu bed it is very difficult to keep the items sticked on the bed.<br />I&#039;ve tried the tape included in the printer box and it initially seemed to work, but at the 2nd printing the objects start to lift in the corners and the printing failed.<br />I tried to use the glue directly on the alu surface (on the glass it worked quite well) but the result was awful.<br />Using the glue on the tape works a little bit more but with incostant results.<br />So i tied to use a normal painting tape: same result, it initially works, but when the height of the object grows, the external edges start to detach from the plate.<br />I didnt tried other sticking methods as kapton tape or spray glue: I hope you suggest me some other solutions.<br />I also notice that after the startup printing (when it prints a double row on the right side of the pad before starting the job) and while moving fast without printing, the material still flow out form the nozzle leaving unwanted stripes on the pad.<br />Are there some parameters to change to avoid this?<br />I&#039;m using ABS original XYZ materials with standard parameters.<br />Can you suggest me best parameters to avoid problems?<br />Thank you all for support.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ruzzzolo]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/12931/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-12-21T14:40:44Z</updated>
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