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Re: going Linux?

2015-11-06T17:03:16Z

I use linux with my SD2 all the time, but am stuck with an older RepetierHost till I get on Fedora 23 which finally has newer mono support. Here's some links to various tips and tricks for linux:

http://tomhorsley.com/hardware/solidood … edora.html
http://tomhorsley.com/hardware/solidood … -udev.html

I particularly like my udev gimmick which talks to my Z-wave home automation system to power up my SD2 and start RH as soon as I plug in the usb cable :-).

Re: going Linux?

2015-11-06T15:20:44Z

n2ri wrote:

that answers most my query pirvan. I did try win10 and go back to win7 in less than a week and that is what started this current mess with win7 now saying its not genuine and no key to replace the one MS blocked from activating (or re-activating 30 days after recovery back to win7) another scam MS has to force a flawed OS on us........they are blocking all OEM installs keys now with no explanation and computer manufacturers dont support software made by other companies especially on PCs out of warranty....

Well, to be fair, they're not really blocking any genuine keys. What they did do, is allow users of ANY Windows 7 or 8, including non-genuine/pirated copies, to upgrade to 10, but if you go back, you need a genuine key to activate. If you don't have one, or if your key was one of the enterprise keys that had been released in the wild and are now blacklisted, then they will prevent you from activating.

Does your laptop have a COA sticker on the bottom? That COA should have the original key on it, try to activate with it, but make sure your installation is what the COA says it should be, you can't activate Ultimate with a Home or Pro, (or vice versa).

If you can't find any of those, then your choices are limited.

You can buy a genuine copy of Windows 7 (you should be able to find them on line, ebay, etc), it should come with a COA sticker with the activation key,
Call Lenovo and see if you can get the original installation discs for that laptop (assuming it came with Windows 7). Their installation disc will automatically "self-activate" becuase of OA2.0
Take the low road and download an activator. Those basically fool the system into thinking it has OA2.0 (OEM Activation) blobs installed into the BIOS

Or you can use the system as is, ignore the non-genuine pop-ups and overlay in the corner, and reset your deskop after every boot (or don't turn your PC off, just put it to sleep).

Re: going Linux?

2015-11-06T10:57:23Z

my oldest son uses lots of smart TVs, phones etc and even runs a server to sync it all so he loves win10 as its made just for that kind of junk. but its not designed for PC. its for cel phones and touch pad tablets and it shows very bad when installed on a PC without touch screen. very very spartan, boring and limited usefulness, zero use if offline and no microsoft account.
if you have several TBs of files and no server with tons of HDD space and dont mind 'sharing' it all with the world/MS then maybe win 10 is for you.

Re: going Linux?

2015-11-06T10:47:21Z

that answers most my query pirvan. I did try win10 and go back to win7 in less than a week and that is what started this current mess with win7 now saying its not genuine and no key to replace the one MS blocked from activating (or re-activating 30 days after recovery back to win7) another scam MS has to force a flawed OS on us. if I could just find an entire win7 ultimate sp1 disc set with key I can yet again waste more weeks of my shorter life re-installing it and all the software/updates since that dumb test. maybe even trash the 10gb of win10 "updates still wasting HDD space since they dont clean up after themselves like normal companies. btw I also installed Comodos free anti virus and firewall and love them and all the cool extras that came with them. Microsoft could take some notes from places like them on how to behave in public. :^) thanks! my 2 sons that are IT experts in high up jobs just make fun of my love for IBM laptops and all my old apps I enjoy both for work and play in my retirement years. I love my latest IBM Lenovo W500 with all its maxed out features. its at least as great of performer as 90% of the top PCs currently available and more capable than most in many ways. but win 10 disables half the hardware on it and I see tons of others online complaining of same issues I had. today when talking to MS tech about my issues since the win10 trail they simply said see if lenovo can help and hung up on me. dont sound like win7 is still supported to me huh? supposed to be til mid jan 2016. they are blocking all OEM installs keys now with no explanation and computer manufacturers dont support software made by other companies especially on PCs out of warranty. so yeah I would warn everybody to avoid win 10 like the plague. MS is lieing about everything they tell you about it and how you can go back to old OS with no issues. they sabatoge your old OS and some of your hardware and software settings so you have nothing to fall back on and no options but win 10 from them. its loaded with privacy/security issues and empty of most features we had and need for our use. relying solely on web based cloud and Microsoft permission to use our own PC under their terms.

Re: going Linux?

2015-11-05T23:18:00Z

Ditching Microsoft Windows is something everyone of us would like to have done at one time or another.

Linux certainly looks like a viable alternative, and for some people it may well be, but the reality is that Linux support (from a software development perspective), is way behind.

I don't mean the Linux OS itself, it's all the other software. So unless you'll be happy with the currently available software, the various productivity apps and such, I think you'll eventually go back to Windows.

Let's face it, there are certain softwares that have become simply indispensable for some of us. I for one make constant use of Adobe programs, Autodesk programs, Solidworks, Apple iTunes, etc. And let's not even talk about games. While there are a few apps for Linux that attempt to approximate those functionalities, they're not in the same class, or they simply don't exist.

There is an app (more like a underlying service layer) called Wine, that allows Linux users to install and run windows programs, but it usually requires quite a bit of tweaking to make the apps compatible, and the experience it not always the same (missing functions, strange menus, etc)

My point is that replacing the OS is easy, but replacing the programs that run on that OS, may not be that easy. Take a look at what it is you like to use on your computer, and check to see if you can run it on Linux, or if there is an equivalent. Then ask yourself how realistic it would be to ditch Windows.

I work for a computer manufacturing company, and we have to test our PCs with all the versions of Windows we sell. I can tell you that most of our customers (business, industrial, medical markets, etc) are still on Windows 7 Pro and don't plan to migrate any time soon. We do not currently recommend Windows 10 to any of our customers, and the few that wanted to try it, we suggested they do so on a test machine, before they commit to company or department wide deployments.

What Carl mentioned is a very good idea. Use Ghost or Acronis to make an image of your machine, then go ahead and play with windows 10. If it's not what you want you can always go back and re-install your old OS.

Alternately I would recommended buying another HDD, pulling their main drive out, and putting it in storage. Put the new drive in, install the new OS, then when you're done fooling around, put back the original drive and go back to being productive.

Re: going Linux?

2015-11-05T21:58:18Z

n2ri wrote:

anybody here use Linux for Solidoodle 2 etc? I have had it with Microsoft and their sceaming ways to force you to use their new low tech win10 crap. I tried win10 a month ago for less than a week and it disabled over half my laptops features and offered less than my win7 ultimate sp1 done so I restored win7 and ditched win10 and MS. well they dont delete all the 10gb of win10 "updates" nor reset default settings from share or them being your slave master. plus they dont tell you they reset your win7 install date til the 30day trial activate expires and they block your old key code number and turn desktop background black and keep popups coming about your non genuine OS that you cant activate and they no longer support (same for my laptop from Lenovo) so you must go with win10 or a dif OS like Lenux. so I told them count me gone from MS if thats the ultimatum.
so now I gotta find if Linux can run all my stuff or what. as I am sick of wasting my life reinstalling windows and all my other programs non-stop. lifes too short at my age. and so is my patients for scammers BS.
saw tons of others having same issues online some even done youtubes how to delete the spyware file MS stuck in sys as an extreme fix.

Image your machines with Acronise True Image. Then just rebuild them fom the image. Use large external drives for storing the images. My desktop and three laptops are all imaged on one 2Tb drive I use with a SATA dock.

going Linux?

2015-11-05T20:41:21Z

anybody here use Linux for Solidoodle 2 etc? I have had it with Microsoft and their sceaming ways to force you to use their new low tech win10 crap. I tried win10 a month ago for less than a week and it disabled over half my laptops features and offered less than my win7 ultimate sp1 done so I restored win7 and ditched win10 and MS. well they dont delete all the 10gb of win10 "updates" nor reset default settings from share or them being your slave master. plus they dont tell you they reset your win7 install date til the 30day trial activate expires and they block your old key code number and turn desktop background black and keep popups coming about your non genuine OS that you cant activate and they no longer support (same for my laptop from Lenovo) so you must go with win10 or a dif OS like Lenux. so I told them count me gone from MS if thats the ultimatum.

so now I gotta find if Linux can run all my stuff or what. as I am sick of wasting my life reinstalling windows and all my other programs non-stop. lifes too short at my age. and so is my patients for scammers BS.

saw tons of others having same issues online some even done youtubes how to delete the spyware file MS stuck in sys as an extreme fix.