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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Any downfalls to switching to RH?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.soliforum.com/post/12513/#p12513" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Well, the switch to RH seemed to go pretty well - somethings I like and some that I don&#039;t but the ones I don&#039;t can probably be tweaked in with more time and experience.</p><p>Running on a 2008 MacBook, I had trouble with RH crashing about a minute or so after starting a print.&nbsp; The crashing went away after I set RH graphics to their minimum so I am assuming the issues were perhaps with the antialiasing in RH and the integrated graphics on the MacBook.&nbsp; I will try this same set up but with my 2011 MacBook Pro.</p><p>First thing I think that I will change will be the homing routine.... why is this necessary after each print anyways as long as you manually homed the machine at startup?&nbsp; What am I missing here?</p><p>In pronterface I used to home x and y but left z at a safe distance above my glass bed clips.&nbsp; &nbsp;I know that RH with solidoodle&#039;s .3mm and .1mm profiles zeros all three and then does a dump near the zero corner before it moves to start the print but I have seen no benefit at all to this as long as you do a simple manual extrude right before you start your print.</p><p>I&#039;ve always manually managed my temperature setttings so the wait for temperature startup g-code seems unneccesary and dangerous to me.&nbsp; The extruder heats up way before the table as we all know and lets the abs cook there while wait for the table to come to temperature.&nbsp; Maybe that&#039;s why so many are having clogged extruders.&nbsp; I guess that I will just change the start g-code to bring the extruder temp to 100c and then manually kick it up to 195c right before the print.</p><p>What do you guys think?</p><p>Thanks for all of your input.....</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Diecrusher]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/116/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-02-11T19:08:20Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/12513/#p12513</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Any downfalls to switching to RH?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>cmetzel wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I want to be the last one using skeinforge and pronterface.&nbsp; I&#039;m holding out.</p></blockquote></div><p>I am still using those two as well, so I guess we will be competing against each other <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Brad]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-02-10T23:06:58Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/12442/#p12442</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Any downfalls to switching to RH?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.soliforum.com/post/12303/#p12303" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>lawsy wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Harvey, did you know you can use Skeinforge within RH instead of Slic3r?</p><p>Should be the best of both worlds if that&#039;s what you prefer.</p></blockquote></div><p>You&#039;ll have to configure it a bit for the Solidoodle</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[solijohn]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/7/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-02-08T22:44:50Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/12303/#p12303</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Any downfalls to switching to RH?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.soliforum.com/post/12288/#p12288" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Harvey, did you know you can use Skeinforge within RH instead of Slic3r?</p><p>Should be the best of both worlds if that&#039;s what you prefer.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[lawsy]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/51/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-02-08T21:28:13Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/12288/#p12288</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Any downfalls to switching to RH?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.soliforum.com/post/12284/#p12284" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>&quot;thread sequence choice&quot; ... whoa, I hadn&#039;t seen that one! ... because except this aspect, I find skeingorge overall more reliable than RH (I use both, RH is fancier, but skeinforge gives overall better results I find).</p><p>I&#039;ll test this tomorrow on the new part I&#039;m designing (a replacement hairdryer outlet nozzle, using CATIAV5 multi section surfaces)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Harvey]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/121/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-02-08T20:06:13Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/12284/#p12284</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Any downfalls to switching to RH?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Diecrusher wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I am ready to finally to make the switch to RH but am wondering if you guys experienced any negatives?</p><p>I read often of failing prints, adhesion problems, extrusion issues, etc. but have never experienced any of that with the machine stock.&nbsp; There have been other issues but those are not for this thread.......</p><p>My longest print took 16... yes 16 hours and used up almost the entire bed and I never had any issues at all, banding, adhesion, extruding all went great.&nbsp; This was using pronterface and skeinforge.</p><p>So the question is if some of these problems can be attributed to the software people are using. </p><p>Opinions?</p></blockquote></div><p>Some people have some issues installing the software in the first place. Also, it is kind of heavy as compared to pronterface. </p><p>Those are the only downsides I know.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[solijohn]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/7/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-02-07T21:59:18Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/12187/#p12187</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Any downfalls to switching to RH?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.soliforum.com/post/12027/#p12027" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>There&#039;s a setting for that in Skeinforge<br />Loops/Perimeter/Infill</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://s11.postimage.org/hmg9yacyb/order.jpg" alt="http://s11.postimage.org/hmg9yacyb/order.jpg" /></span></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[cmetzel]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/78/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-02-06T15:47:22Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/12027/#p12027</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Any downfalls to switching to RH?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.soliforum.com/post/12023/#p12023" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I find it depends... skeinforge&#039;s raft is good because you don&#039;t need to wait for the bed to heat up as much (often 60° will do), which can balance the fact that slicing is longer (waiting for the bed to reach 95° in RH takes long too)!</p><p>I don&#039;t think time is a real issue, as heating up time or slicing time is insignificant compared to the actual time required to design the parts (or to the print time for that matter).</p><p>On some parts I find skeinforge gives better results than slic3r, although most of the time slic3r is better, I believe 99% of slic3r advantages come from the fact it starts from inside rather than outside, which avoids having the messy blobs on the visible surface.</p><p>RH is a nice GUI, with the 3D view and stuff!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Harvey]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/121/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-02-06T15:25:50Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/12023/#p12023</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Any downfalls to switching to RH?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>jefferysanders wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>lawsy wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>You must be very patient to wait for Skeinforge to do its thing.</p></blockquote></div><p>&nbsp; Hahaha...so true...RH v Pront is like a iphone vs a corded bag-cell...</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>+1</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[DePartedPrinter]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/55/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-02-06T00:58:36Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/11970/#p11970</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Any downfalls to switching to RH?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.soliforum.com/post/11956/#p11956" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>lawsy wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>You must be very patient to wait for Skeinforge to do its thing.</p></blockquote></div><p>&nbsp; Hahaha...so true...RH v Pront is like a iphone vs a corded bag-cell...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[jefferysanders]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/106/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-02-05T23:45:27Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/11956/#p11956</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Any downfalls to switching to RH?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.soliforum.com/post/11950/#p11950" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t have as much time as a lot of you seem to have, so I&#039;m not creating altogether that much while I&#039;m in front of the machine.&nbsp; Often times I&#039;ll use downtime at work (real or imagined downtime) and model something, and start slicing in the background.&nbsp; So when I get home I just heat up the bed, load the gcode and go.&nbsp; Weekends when I&#039;m sitting there the kids are always competing for my attention so I can wait for it to slice and play with the kids while it chugs along.&nbsp; Most of my printing is done after they go to sleep.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[cmetzel]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/78/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2013-02-05T22:53:48Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/11950/#p11950</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Any downfalls to switching to RH?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.soliforum.com/post/11943/#p11943" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>You must be very patient to wait for Skeinforge to do its thing.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[lawsy]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/51/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2013-02-05T22:25:47Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/11943/#p11943</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Any downfalls to switching to RH?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.soliforum.com/post/11937/#p11937" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I want to be the last one using skeinforge and pronterface.&nbsp; I&#039;m holding out.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[cmetzel]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/78/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2013-02-05T22:01:22Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/11937/#p11937</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Any downfalls to switching to RH?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.soliforum.com/post/11923/#p11923" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>RH/slic3r is just like switching to any other printing application, it needs to be dialed in to fit your printer.&nbsp; Solidoodle has released profiles that assist with just like they do for pronto/skienforge.</p><p>I highly recommend switching over to RH.&nbsp; At anytime you can use the original software by just opening it instead.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[nickythegreek]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/366/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2013-02-05T20:19:44Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/11923/#p11923</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Any downfalls to switching to RH?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.soliforum.com/post/11922/#p11922" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I am ready to finally to make the switch to RH but am wondering if you guys experienced any negatives?</p><p>I read often of failing prints, adhesion problems, extrusion issues, etc. but have never experienced any of that with the machine stock.&nbsp; There have been other issues but those are not for this thread.......</p><p>My longest print took 16... yes 16 hours and used up almost the entire bed and I never had any issues at all, banding, adhesion, extruding all went great.&nbsp; This was using pronterface and skeinforge.</p><p>So the question is if some of these problems can be attributed to the software people are using. </p><p>Opinions?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Diecrusher]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/116/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2013-02-05T20:11:07Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/11922/#p11922</id>
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