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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Banding and other issues]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>g00bd0g wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>cmetzel wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I don&#039;t understand why you&#039;re getting rid of it if it&#039;s fixed now,&nbsp; what are you getting in its place?</p></blockquote></div><p>It&#039;s not a bad little machine once you have the bugs worked out. But every time I hit the print button the same part comes out a bit differently. I plan on doing actual mass-production of 3d printed parts and this little guy is just not up to the task of printing tons of identical parts. The SD2 is just a stop-gap until this shows up.</p><p><a href="http://trinitylabs.com/pages/aluminatus-overview">http://trinitylabs.com/pages/aluminatus-overview</a></p></blockquote></div><p><img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/hmm.png" width="15" height="15" alt="hmm" /> we use them for mass production. Seems pretty consistent on our end.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[solijohn]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-01-27T15:58:47Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Banding and other issues]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Could you list some of the steps you took to improve print quality to this degree, or link to where you read up on this?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[aFoote]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/319/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-01-26T04:22:53Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Banding and other issues]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>cmetzel wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I don&#039;t understand why you&#039;re getting rid of it if it&#039;s fixed now,&nbsp; what are you getting in its place?</p></blockquote></div><p>It&#039;s not a bad little machine once you have the bugs worked out. But every time I hit the print button the same part comes out a bit differently. I plan on doing actual mass-production of 3d printed parts and this little guy is just not up to the task of printing tons of identical parts. The SD2 is just a stop-gap until this shows up.</p><p><a href="http://trinitylabs.com/pages/aluminatus-overview">http://trinitylabs.com/pages/aluminatus-overview</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[g00bd0g]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/445/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-01-26T01:03:50Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Banding and other issues]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t understand why you&#039;re getting rid of it if it&#039;s fixed now,&nbsp; what are you getting in its place?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[cmetzel]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/78/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-01-26T00:24:08Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Banding and other issues]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I have had my SD2 for a couple months now. I have been following this forum, the google group, and read everything I can find about this machine. It is my belief that a poor quality z-threaded rod is responsible for most, if not all, of the banding issues I and others are experiencing. Almost all of the pictures I have seen of SD produced parts have significant banding. Even the parts made by SD!</p><p>It is a shame that SD is allowing 1 poor part and some less than perfect QA to severely limit the quality this machine is capable of.</p><p>My machine had a base that was not perpendicular to the Z axis, so the motor and shaft were pointed several degrees off to the side and front. This puts a lot of lateral pressure on the z-nut and build platform. The z-threaded road had about 5mm run-out at the tip. After trying unsuccessfully to get support to send me another, I figured I had nothing to lose and straightened the threaded rod by hand, and shimmed the motor level. This almost fixed it entirely. It&#039;s not perfect, but I am morally opposed to paying for a replacement part for something that was defective to begin with.</p><p>List of QA/assembly issues:</p><ul><li><p>Bent z-axis thread rod</p></li><li><p>Base of machine not perpendicular to z-axis resulting in mis-aligned motor and threaded rod.</p></li><li><p>Bushings for the y-axis &quot;jack-shaft&quot; (intermediate shaft, whatever you want to call it) were installed so far off-angle that they exceeded the &quot;self-aligning&quot; abilities of the self-aligning bushings, putting lots of extra friction in the y-axis stage.</p></li><li><p>Poorly tensioned and aligned y-axis belts and shafts</p></li><li><p>SD printed parts were all exceedingly poor quality. My own printed parts are MUCH nicer. You would expect the companies</p></li><li><p>own parts to be as good or better than what the customers could produce.</p></li><li><p>X-axis rod ends printed parts, nearly all screw holes were stripped.</p></li><li><p>Y-axis printed pulley bracket misaligned, resulting in pulley always pulling to one side and causing additional drag</p></li><li><p>Corrupted bootloader, had to &quot;burn&quot; a new bootloader to load latest firmware</p></li><li><p>Ridiculously loud extruder fan</p></li></ul><p>Items they really &quot;should&quot; have:<br /></p><ul><li><p>Had to solder in headers for PWM fan, not technically a problem, but c&#039;mon, what&#039;s it cost, 3 cents? Should come with FET and fan already installed.</p></li><li><p>Kapton bed is not that cool, boro glass bed is much better.</p></li></ul><br /><p>SD should improve the QA on the threaded rods, provide replacements to anyone with banding issues, along with instructions on how to replace it, and level the motor.</p><p>Before and after applying this &quot;fix&quot;</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.soliforum.com/misc.php?action=pun_attachment&amp;item=797&amp;download=0" alt="http://www.soliforum.com/misc.php?action=pun_attachment&amp;amp;item=797&amp;amp;download=0" /></span></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[g00bd0g]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/445/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-01-25T23:45:39Z</updated>
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