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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Feedrate, Flowrate and adjustment of both]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ll give a Brim a try maybe tomorrow. I&#039;m spending too much time with the SD2 right now. need to develope other products.</p><p>Anyway, I spoke a bit too soon. I have tried two seperate parts being printed at one time to see how the&nbsp; &#039;cobweb&#039; issue plays out.... it doesn&#039;t as the attached photo shows. When printed singly this wooden barrel prints really nice. I tried it once with the two barrels closer together and the results were far worse. I stopped it before it was 25% done. I then tried it with the two barrels spread fairly far apart. There is a ridge almost the entire hight of the barrels where the hot end leaves to move to the next plus the piece seen below.</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.rustystumps.com/solidoodlephotos/BadBarrels1.jpg" alt="http://www.rustystumps.com/solidoodlephotos/BadBarrels1.jpg" /></span></p><p>Nickythegreek - My Slic3r screen doesn&#039;t seem to match up to your list. Below is a picture of it. I&#039;m using the latest version of the software.</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.rustystumps.com/solidoodlephotos/Slic3r-RetractScrn.jpg" alt="http://www.rustystumps.com/solidoodlephotos/Slic3r-RetractScrn.jpg" /></span></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Irish]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/464/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-01-18T16:55:10Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Feedrate, Flowrate and adjustment of both]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Irish wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>nickythegreek wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Oh ya, that thing looks like a mess.&nbsp; Do you have the STL so that we can see what it was supposed to be?&nbsp; And a picture of a correctly printed one could help as well.</p><p>I know that Kendall in the SD Google Group made a .25mm profile that he has posted.</p><p>I noticed in another thread that it looks like your SD2 does not have a case.&nbsp; As you get to more detailed objects, keeping the printing chamber at a constant temperature is more important and drafts from the side can hurt your print too.</p></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;ll have to regenerate the STL file tomorrow. I have the case for the SD2 but find it cumbersome plus I didn&#039;t like the very short turn the filament has to make feeding into the Head. Also, it&#039;s hard to get into the SD2 through the front door, much easier through the sides. I could reverse the feed off the spool and have it come through the hole in the back. I found that with this particular ABS short curves cause it to break. Just feeding the end through the holes in the spool, they are about 2&quot; apart, will result in a break at one of them after a day or two.</p></blockquote></div><p>I received jams of the filament from the back to the extruder.&nbsp; &nbsp;Also noticed that the filament would sometimes get grease from the rods on it.&nbsp; My fix works very well.&nbsp; Get some tube from your local Aquarium store.&nbsp; It&#039;s dirt cheap, fixes the problem and you don&#039;t need any expensive ptfe coating.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Tesla]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/681/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-01-18T15:14:03Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>+1 for 4mm brim, it should help minimize that warp.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[nickythegreek]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/366/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-01-18T15:13:10Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Feedrate, Flowrate and adjustment of both]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>jon_bondy wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Irish wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>One issue I do have is the corners on the base are lifting, all four corners in about 1/8&quot; lifting about 10 degrees. I was wondering if this if from too cool a bed so I heated it to 100C on this last run but it&#039;s still there a bit.</p></blockquote></div><p>I can print at 80C so long as I use a Brim of 4 or so: you might give that a try</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>Do you have some type of cover over your SD?&nbsp; &nbsp;The open air drafts make for poor warping.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Tesla]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/681/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-01-18T15:06:11Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Feedrate, Flowrate and adjustment of both]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Irish wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>One issue I do have is the corners on the base are lifting, all four corners in about 1/8&quot; lifting about 10 degrees. I was wondering if this if from too cool a bed so I heated it to 100C on this last run but it&#039;s still there a bit.</p></blockquote></div><p>I can print at 80C so long as I use a Brim of 4 or so: you might give that a try</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[jon_bondy]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/181/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-01-18T02:18:52Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Feedrate, Flowrate and adjustment of both]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Excellent results. I adjusted a number of things.</p><p>1. changed to Jet Natural ABS filament<br />2. put the metal case back on<br />3. Added NicktheGreeks retract code<br />4. placed a small (3&quot;) fan to blow on the main circut board on the SD2</p><p>I got a really good print of the above twin exhaust vents with no cobwebs. Only a bit of an issue in the curved area (botttom) of the large block close to the top. There I got some nodes hanging out which I surmized to come from too much filament. I backed the Feedrate down to 90 in the Manual Tab and it seemed to solve that problem.</p><p>Big thing is the print made it all the way through without the scewing noted in the earlier photo. I&#039;ll take a picture tomorrow and post it.</p><p>Thanks for the feedback as it&#039;s helped greatly.</p><p>One issue I do have is the corners on the base are lifting, all four corners in about 1/8&quot; lifting about 10 degrees. I was wondering if this if from too cool a bed so I heated it to 100C on this last run but it&#039;s still there a bit.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Irish]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/464/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-01-18T01:15:59Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Here&#039;s a photo or a REALLY GOOD print.... Done at Shapeways on a sinted powder unit. This is a resin casting made from the original 3D printed piece. No real clean up, wasn&#039;t needed.</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.rustystumps.com/solidoodlephotos/GoodPart0.jpg" alt="http://www.rustystumps.com/solidoodlephotos/GoodPart0.jpg" /></span></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Irish]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-01-16T22:49:15Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Feedrate, Flowrate and adjustment of both]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>nickythegreek wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Oh ya, that thing looks like a mess.&nbsp; Do you have the STL so that we can see what it was supposed to be?&nbsp; And a picture of a correctly printed one could help as well.</p><p>I know that Kendall in the SD Google Group made a .25mm profile that he has posted.</p><p>I noticed in another thread that it looks like your SD2 does not have a case.&nbsp; As you get to more detailed objects, keeping the printing chamber at a constant temperature is more important and drafts from the side can hurt your print too.</p></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;ll have to regenerate the STL file tomorrow. I have the case for the SD2 but find it cumbersome plus I didn&#039;t like the very short turn the filament has to make feeding into the Head. Also, it&#039;s hard to get into the SD2 through the front door, much easier through the sides. I could reverse the feed off the spool and have it come through the hole in the back. I found that with this particular ABS short curves cause it to break. Just feeding the end through the holes in the spool, they are about 2&quot; apart, will result in a break at one of them after a day or two.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Irish]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/464/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-01-16T20:57:17Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>IanJohnson wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Is that PLA or ABS?&nbsp; If PLA, you might have to reduce the temp.&nbsp; Since PLA changes from solid to liquid rather than softening like ABS, the temperature range is much narrower and it is more prone to oozing since it is more runny.</p></blockquote></div><p>It&#039;s ABS. I switched back to ABS because I wasn&#039;t getting the outter surfaces I wanted with the PLA.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-01-16T20:53:22Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Feedrate, Flowrate and adjustment of both]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Is that PLA or ABS?&nbsp; If PLA, you might have to reduce the temp.&nbsp; Since PLA changes from solid to liquid rather than softening like ABS, the temperature range is much narrower and it is more prone to oozing since it is more runny.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[IanJohnson]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/14/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-01-16T18:13:51Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Feedrate, Flowrate and adjustment of both]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Oh ya, that thing looks like a mess.&nbsp; Do you have the STL so that we can see what it was supposed to be?&nbsp; And a picture of a correctly printed one could help as well.</p><p>I know that Kendall in the SD Google Group made a .25mm profile that he has posted.</p><p>I noticed in another thread that it looks like your SD2 does not have a case.&nbsp; As you get to more detailed objects, keeping the printing chamber at a constant temperature is more important and drafts from the side can hurt your print too.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[nickythegreek]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/366/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-01-16T17:50:05Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Feedrate, Flowrate and adjustment of both]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>nickythegreek wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>This should be controlled by your retraction settings. I use the following in my .3mm slic3r profile:</p><p>retract_before_travel = .5<br />retract_length = 1.2<br />retract_length_toolchange = 3<br />retract_lift = 0<br />retract_restart_extra = .03<br />retract_restart_extra_toolchange = 0<br />retract_speed = 75</p><p>Try lowering your extruder temp as well.</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>Nick, I&#039;m printing at .2MM trying to get halfway between the .1MM and .3MM as I&#039;m working in minatures I need fine surfaces. I know the Form1 unit would be the best but they won&#039;t have that out until May now and also I&#039;m not sure I can justify the cost at my age. [grin] At 70 you start getting concerned about those things. [laugh]</p><p>I start at 95 on the bed and 195C on the filament. The filament changes to 193C after the first layer is printed. I&#039;ve gotten some fantastic results but on column type pieces such as wooden barrels or oil drums. Anything else with variations of surface of multiple columns, areas, are basically a disaster or would take so much rework it would be easier to build by hand.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Irish]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/464/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-01-16T17:29:35Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Here&#039;s a part I was working on last night. The treads (cobwebs) between the columns and the nodes that come off the columns was what I was working to remove. I tried various settings of the Feedrate and Flowrate but had set both back to 100% about six or more minutes before I returned and found this. The color is exagurated but there is a slight bit of color I think from some PLA gold that had been used quite a while back.</p><p>I think the issue was over heating of the controller board as it ran perfectly well this morning on another job. I&#039;ve also had the Solidoodle crap out on me with instructions waiting but it doesn&#039;t work on them. I then took everything down and restarted a bit later and it worked perfectly well. Again I think a heat issue so a fan for the controller board appears to be a MUST.</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.rustystumps.com/solidoodlephotos/BadPart0.jpg" alt="http://www.rustystumps.com/solidoodlephotos/BadPart0.jpg" /></span></p><p>Nick, thanks for those values, I&#039;ll give them a try.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Irish]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/464/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-01-16T17:18:20Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>This should be controlled by your retraction settings. I use the following in my .3mm slic3r profile:</p><p>retract_before_travel = .5<br />retract_length = 1.2<br />retract_length_toolchange = 3<br />retract_lift = 0<br />retract_restart_extra = .03<br />retract_restart_extra_toolchange = 0<br />retract_speed = 75</p><p>Try lowering your extruder temp as well.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[nickythegreek]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/366/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-01-16T17:02:49Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m trying to get the &#039;cobwebs&#039; out of multi-column prints. Also the nodes that come off the side of a column as it moves from one to the other doing the layer print. I&#039;ve tried about everything else including Retraction, Z Lift, etc. The Z lift seemed to cause more problems in the long run so I took that out.</p><p>Just trying to find out if anyone else has had this issue and how they might have resolved it.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Irish]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-01-16T15:31:18Z</updated>
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