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	<title type="html"><![CDATA[SoliForum - 3D Printing Community — Rough surface problem]]></title>
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	<updated>2015-03-07T12:04:31Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Rough surface problem]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.soliforum.com/post/88690/#p88690" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>No expert, but it really looks like overextruding.&nbsp; Pull the second extruder all the way up out of the way and calibrate the first one properly first before proceeding.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[w_smith]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/8167/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-03-07T12:04:31Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/88690/#p88690</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Rough surface problem]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Can you update load config...not the settings but actual files</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[OneMoreCast]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/8772/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-03-05T21:02:28Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/88472/#p88472</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Rough surface problem]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.soliforum.com/post/88470/#p88470" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Download cura and slice and print w that in RH...i had problems w Slic3r for bit. Do a simple print that was giving you probs see what Cura does</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[OneMoreCast]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/8772/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-03-05T21:01:38Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/88470/#p88470</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Rough surface problem]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I have test printed one part with support material, the result was kind of terrible. It misaligned again during the printing process. I have included the photo. I can see the printed thread was accurate enough, and there&#039;s not too much deep trench created. I know it&#039;s not over extruding, but still, the problem happened. </p><p>And I just did a print, with two raft layers. the second extruder always hits the material and raised the nozzle level for both extruder. this made everything worse, because the extruded material can not stick properly to the bed, and made the thread thinner than normal width, so the threads can not bond together. I have also included the photo.</p><p>Has anyone experienced this before? I am thinking maybe the two extruders are not leveled. </p><p>Thank you for your help!!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[zqfrancis]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/9791/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-03-05T18:03:12Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/88451/#p88451</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Rough surface problem]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>That&#039;s great but I am rather certain that came with a .40 nozzle.<br />I am also certain that the WIKI isn&#039;t broken.&nbsp; <br /><a href="http://www.soliwiki.com/Calibration_of_the_flow_rate">http://www.soliwiki.com/Calibration_of_the_flow_rate</a><br />And if this is true then you also want to look at your extrusion widths as well.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2291/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-03-04T20:51:19Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/88275/#p88275</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Rough surface problem]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I changed the steps per mm to 107.8, and test printed a cube without infill, I got 0.56mm thickness on the wall, and then I changed the extrusion multiplier to 0.75 to match 0.42mm thickness for single parameter extrusion. I finally ended with 0.42mm thickness!<br />Succeeded! I am going to test print some parts now and see if the problem is actually solved! </p><p>Thank you so much guys!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[zqfrancis]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/9791/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-03-04T20:22:56Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/88271/#p88271</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Rough surface problem]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Never mind, I found that in the Config.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[zqfrancis]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/9791/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-03-04T18:46:50Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/88262/#p88262</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Rough surface problem]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I am having trouble finding EEPROM, Do you know where to download it? Or I can open in Repetier Host, but I didn&#039;t find it. I downloaded arduino 00-22, which is mentioned in the Extruder Calibration Video, and I am still installing it right now.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[zqfrancis]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/9791/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-03-04T18:41:13Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/88261/#p88261</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Rough surface problem]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>You can change steps through EEPROM. The correct way to fix it is change steps, changing extrusion multiplier is just like flow rate not addressing real problem. What are your current steps per mm for extruder?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[OneMoreCast]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/8772/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-03-04T18:29:54Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/88258/#p88258</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Rough surface problem]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for all the advises! I do appreciate that!</p><p> My current setting for hot end is 220, and 100 for print bed. I think I need to calibrate the Extruder, I found out yesterday that the step motor is not extruding the right length. instead of extruding 100mm, it extruded 128mm, So I have to make changes to the firmwares first, and then try a few tests. </p><p>Based on the video for Extruder Calibration,&nbsp; I need to update the firmware.&nbsp; Or I can simply change the Extrusion Multiplier, In my case, I will have to change to 0.78. But I am wondering which way is more efficient for future replacement of filament?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[zqfrancis]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/9791/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-03-04T18:10:29Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Rough surface problem]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Also what temp is bed and hotend? Brand of filament ks also huge role...junk in junk out, what brand are you using. For future purchases I cant recommend Octave highly enough, stuffs fantastic</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[OneMoreCast]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/8772/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-03-04T07:51:41Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/88207/#p88207</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Rough surface problem]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.soliforum.com/post/88206/#p88206" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I had problems too and had my flow bumped up super high...problem wound up being my extruder was not calibrated correctly. The link jago posted will help 100% if thats the case. Makes a huge diff, you shouldnt have to touch flow when everything is running good.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[OneMoreCast]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/8772/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-03-04T07:50:33Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/88206/#p88206</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Rough surface problem]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>zqfrancis wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Both Nozzles seems like in the same level, the problem is, not only the second nozzle contacts the printed material, the main Nozzle also drag through the printed material (which is cooled down and created rough surface). So I am thinking maybe I over extrude too much, or the over lap is too much so the material was squeezed up after extrusion. But if I don&#039;t extrude this amount, the filament can not stick to the printbed, and it is another problem.</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>If you have to overextrude to stick to the bed then your bed is not properly calibrated. Ideally the gap between your bed an nozzle should be at the maximum of half your layer height. To ball park it you should be able to place a piece of paper between the bed and nozzle and just feel the paper slightly drag between them. Even better, use a .15 or .10 feeler gauge.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[carl_m1968]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/7731/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-03-04T02:00:24Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/88179/#p88179</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Rough surface problem]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Overextruding can cause this...Try these two steps:</p><p><a href="https://solidoodletips.wordpress.com/2012/08/09/extruder-calibration/">https://solidoodletips.wordpress.com/20 … libration/</a></p><p>and</p><p><a href="https://solidoodletips.wordpress.com/2012/08/16/setting-the-flow-rate/">https://solidoodletips.wordpress.com/20 … flow-rate/</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[IronMan]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/131/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-03-04T01:34:22Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/88177/#p88177</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Rough surface problem]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Both Nozzles seems like in the same level, the problem is, not only the second nozzle contacts the printed material, the main Nozzle also drag through the printed material (which is cooled down and created rough surface). So I am thinking maybe I over extrude too much, or the over lap is too much so the material was squeezed up after extrusion. But if I don&#039;t extrude this amount, the filament can not stick to the printbed, and it is another problem.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[zqfrancis]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/9791/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2015-03-03T22:18:16Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/88145/#p88145</id>
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