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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Accurate sizing - tips to accommodate for shrink/overlap?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I know this is a slightly different topic, but I thought sharing this might help when looking for dimensional accuracy.</p><p>Running some test I found out my printer was over extruding quite a lot.<br />A test I did was printing a box with thin walls and measuring the thickness of the walls and compare it to the extrusion width set in Simplify3D. I wound my actual extrusion width was over 125% the width set in simplify3D so I lowered the extrusion multiplier and voilà, now my thin walls are the right size. I thought it would make a small difference, but it actually did a huge one in negative space details!</p><p>When trying to run the Make magazine&#039;s negative space test found here <a href="http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:533472/">http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:533472/</a> I could only remove the first 2 pegs, after the new settings I can remove 4 out of 5 pegs, and I didn&#039;t scale the model or anything.</p><p>The way I set it to get these results is:</p><p>Nozzle diameter: 0,40mm (of course)<br />Extrusion multiplier: 0,82<br />Extrusion width: 0,48mm</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[iacopo]]></name>
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			<updated>2015-02-28T20:22:43Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Double A wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Hey all,</p><p>I have been doing a lot of small testing with my DaVinci and Im having a difficult time finding the proper sizing method to compensate for ABS shrinking and/or shell overlap.&nbsp; For example, if I model a nut and bolt, I have to upscale the nut in order for it to properly screw onto the bolt.</p><p>Im trying to print a ring collar for a 14mm tube with a snug fit.&nbsp; It is proving to be a challenge; either its too large or too small.<br />My process, so far, has been simple trial and error of printing out a small piece to see how it fits, then adjust the model accordingly.<br />My test was modeled at 14.77mm and measured with my caliper to be 14.1mm after it cooled, so there is about a .68mm difference.<br />I cannot tell if the size difference is due to shrinkage or shell overlap.</p><p>Is it all trial and error or are there any general tips/tricks to getting the proper sizing tolerance?&nbsp; <br />Thanks!</p></blockquote></div><p>If you are using Simplify3D the last version upgrade has a feature called &#039;tolerance adjustments&#039; to do exactly what you need.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2015-02-26T01:42:04Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Double A wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Ok, that is understandable.&nbsp; I tried the same test print with a different filament and it was very loose, so I&#039;ll have to make adjustments per filament.<br />I&#039;ve read just the pigment in the filament will greatly vary the flow and thickness of the print.</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>That is correct, and it affects the temperature as well. Unless color is important I always use natural as it has no pigment so the shrinkage and temperature variables will be minimum.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2015-02-25T07:22:29Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Ok, that is understandable.&nbsp; I tried the same test print with a different filament and it was very loose, so I&#039;ll have to make adjustments per filament.<br />I&#039;ve read just the pigment in the filament will greatly vary the flow and thickness of the print.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Double A]]></name>
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			<updated>2015-02-25T06:41:39Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Double A wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Hey all,</p><p>I have been doing a lot of small testing with my DaVinci and Im having a difficult time finding the proper sizing method to compensate for ABS shrinking and/or shell overlap.&nbsp; For example, if I model a nut and bolt, I have to upscale the nut in order for it to properly screw onto the bolt.</p><p>Im trying to print a ring collar for a 14mm tube with a snug fit.&nbsp; It is proving to be a challenge; either its too large or too small.<br />My process, so far, has been simple trial and error of printing out a small piece to see how it fits, then adjust the model accordingly.<br />My test was modeled at 14.77mm and measured with my caliper to be 14.1mm after it cooled, so there is about a .68mm difference.<br />I cannot tell if the size difference is due to shrinkage or shell overlap.</p><p>Is it all trial and error or are there any general tips/tricks to getting the proper sizing tolerance?&nbsp; <br />Thanks!</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>There is no set number as it varies from reel to reel even with the same vendor. What you can do is make a test object. Something smaall with known dimensions and some holes as well. When you get a new spool. print that object and measure. Note the deviation and compensate in your measurements while using that spool.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2015-02-25T06:19:52Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hey all,</p><p>I have been doing a lot of small testing with my DaVinci and Im having a difficult time finding the proper sizing method to compensate for ABS shrinking and/or shell overlap.&nbsp; For example, if I model a nut and bolt, I have to upscale the nut in order for it to properly screw onto the bolt.</p><p>Im trying to print a ring collar for a 14mm tube with a snug fit.&nbsp; It is proving to be a challenge; either its too large or too small.<br />My process, so far, has been simple trial and error of printing out a small piece to see how it fits, then adjust the model accordingly.<br />My test was modeled at 14.77mm and measured with my caliper to be 14.1mm after it cooled, so there is about a .68mm difference.<br />I cannot tell if the size difference is due to shrinkage or shell overlap.</p><p>Is it all trial and error or are there any general tips/tricks to getting the proper sizing tolerance?&nbsp; <br />Thanks!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Double A]]></name>
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			<updated>2015-02-25T02:14:48Z</updated>
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