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	<updated>2015-05-17T15:32:31Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Solidoodle built from 2020 openbeam project]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Great work!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[AZERATE]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4188/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-05-17T15:32:31Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Solidoodle built from 2020 openbeam project]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>A few more pictures have been added showing my slow progress (Scroll to bottom).&nbsp; I&#039;m currently chasing a rigidity issue in the Z axis and started a thread over in Hacks and Mods if anyone wants to give input.</p><p><a href="http://imgur.com/a/wSNoq">http://imgur.com/a/wSNoq</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[mdrVB6]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4377/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-05-17T15:05:04Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Solidoodle built from 2020 openbeam project]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>So jelly</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[chancrescolex]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/9877/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-04-22T03:02:32Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Solidoodle built from 2020 openbeam project]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Its probably going to come to about $1200- $1400.&nbsp; I already had the board, hot end and PSU so less than that out of pocket.&nbsp; It was about a $300 order from Misumi for most of the frame parts.&nbsp; Another $100 or to Folger tech for the rods and bearings.&nbsp; Several &lt;$20 orders on aliexpress for the KP08 and the flanged bearings on the bed holder.&nbsp; Just dropped another $100 at McMaster for an AC heater pad and misc bolts.&nbsp; But I also order several extras whenever I order from aliexpress because it takes a little while to get here and its usually small stuff.</p><p>I have not carefully kept track of costs.&nbsp; If cost is an issue, you can always spread out your orders over time anyway because everything will take longer than you thought to assemble.&nbsp; Yes, I could have bought a workbench for the cost of this printer but I&#039;m convinced this will be a better machine.&nbsp; I have not used cheap components, everything on here was sourced for quality.&nbsp; You could get any of these parts for cheaper if you were willing to take chances on quality but I&#039;m just not interested in having a cheap machine like another solidoodle.&nbsp; This one will be built like a rock.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[mdrVB6]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4377/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-04-08T13:35:23Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Solidoodle built from 2020 openbeam project]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>very nice build...&nbsp; i will be happy to know the total cost at the end...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ysb]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/40/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-04-07T16:49:45Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Solidoodle built from 2020 openbeam project]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>So I really am building a printer here, just taking a while!&nbsp; The frame is complete and the carriages are mostly installed.&nbsp; I&#039;ll let the pictures do the talking:</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/uSFap0o.jpg" alt="http://i.imgur.com/uSFap0o.jpg" /></span></p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/7jUUrEJ.jpg" alt="http://i.imgur.com/7jUUrEJ.jpg" /></span></p><p>Album with more photos: <a href="http://imgur.com/a/wSNoq">http://imgur.com/a/wSNoq</a>&nbsp; (scroll to bottom for latest)</p><p>I&#039;m very happy with the frame.&nbsp; Then open beam with corner brackets is rock solid, and having everything cut my Misumi at the factory has allowed me to not really worry about building it square.&nbsp; One of my goals was not not have printed parts in the rods or bearing area.&nbsp; For now, it has printed 8mm shaft supports, but metal ones are on order from aliexpress.&nbsp; The pen beam allows the rod holders and KP08 bearings to be adjusted for perfect alignment.&nbsp; That is really why I wanted an open beam frame instead of a steel case, so a single bad drill hole does not ruin the whole thing.</p><p>The bed holder is from ultimaker, probably OEM, got it from aliexpress.&nbsp; Unfortunately, it does not work very well with the solidoodle direct drive setup and extruder.&nbsp; I&#039;m losing about 1.5 inches of bed space in the back that I can&#039;t get the nozzle to reach.&nbsp; Also, the shaft supports are kinda long and I&#039;m losing some X travel that way.&nbsp; So the 12x12&quot; bed that I was hoping for is now barely a 10x10&quot; bed.&nbsp; Kinda disappointing, but I know I will probably never really need to print anything that big anyway.</p><p>Now that my bed size is set, I&#039;ve got an AC heater on order from McMaster.&nbsp; So if you guys don&#039;t hear from me in a couple days, assume I burned my house down.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[mdrVB6]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4377/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-04-05T22:56:51Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Solidoodle built from 2020 openbeam project]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Project update time, just so you all don&#039;t think I am all talk about building a solidoodle from open beam.&nbsp; Imgur album for all the below:</p><p><a href="http://imgur.com/a/wSNoq">http://imgur.com/a/wSNoq</a></p><p>I got in all the aluminum extrusions and other parts from Misumi on Friday, so that makes it 9 days between ordering and receiving.&nbsp; I think that&#039;s very quick for custom cut extrusions and all the rods too.&nbsp; I wanted them to cut it to my specs so I didn&#039;t have to worry (as much) about building the frame out of square.</p><p>I blocked off my whole day on Saturday hoping to get the frame built and maybe more.&nbsp; I have previously received the M5 tap and handle from McMaster so I was ready with that and the cube corner connecters from openbuildspartsstore.&nbsp; So I tap the first couple beams and go to test fit it.&nbsp; Unfortunately, I did not pay close enough attention and these connectors require low profile M5 screws instead of the standard M5 cap heads, so I was immediately dead in the water and couldn&#039;t work.&nbsp; Crap.&nbsp; See last pic in album.&nbsp; So I immediately ordered some low profile M5s from McMaster and these should be here pretty quick.&nbsp; Spent the rest of the day cleaning my house.&nbsp; Fail.</p><p>Anyway, tapping all these extrusions turned out to be a pretty big job but when combining the corner bracket with these printed braces that I made, I think it will be a very rigid machine.&nbsp; &nbsp;When tapping open beam, the M5 fits nicely and self aligns.&nbsp; I didn&#039;t have any metal cutting oil on hand, so I just used the glass cutting oil that I got when I was cutting glass beds and it worked fine.&nbsp; But some kind of oil is essential, don&#039;t skip on this.&nbsp; You could also order the ends tapped M5 from Misumi but it more than doubles the cost of the aluminum extrusions and the tap with handle was only about $12 from McMaster so I decided to do my own taps.&nbsp; It was pretty easy but I should have ordered a few small sections to practice on first.</p><p>I did build another solidoodle extruder from self sourced parts.&nbsp; I put my volcano on there for now.&nbsp; M3x60 screws are perfect for securing a fan and heatsink on the back of the motor and can also be used in the lawsy carriage to hold the motor and mount on the the bearing holding part.&nbsp; I&#039;ve now have a ton of the screws and heat sinks because I had to order like 20 heat sinks from aliexpress if anyone needs one.</p><p>I also held the open beam up to my SD2 for scale.&nbsp; I estimate this will end up giving me a build area of somewhere between 10 and 11&quot; when done.&nbsp; I thought about making it big enough that I could for sure get a 12&quot; build plate in there but I ultimately decided that I will probably never actually want to print anything that big and there is the whole issue of thermal contraction making it hard to go much bigger anyway.&nbsp; I&#039;ll order an aluminum plate and heater pad when it is all built and see exactly what I end up with.</p><p>I also changed the name of this thread.&nbsp; I guess it&#039;s not very correct to call it an ultimaker hybrid when the only ultimaker piece will be the Z axis assembly.&nbsp; It will have solidoodle carriages but it will have 8mm rods in the back and front (in addition to the typical 8mm Y rods).&nbsp; These will be used for the Y drive in the back and in the front I will mount the idlers for the Y axis, but if I ever wanted to it could be converted to an ultimaker style gantry without too much work.</p><p>I need to get to work designing something good to mount the Y axis end stop with.&nbsp; The Z endstop will be based on this: <a href="http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:126716">http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:126716</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[mdrVB6]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4377/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-03-01T22:49:27Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Solidoodle built from 2020 openbeam project]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Wow, the motion system on that thing looks way over designed and possibly too heavy for those motors.&nbsp; I don&#039;t see any reason to go Bowden like that and then negate all your weight savings by throwing a massive rail system on there.&nbsp; Plus you would have to be sponsored by open beam to throw all those beams on there.</p><p>And if you want a delta, check out my kossel that is over in the for sale section.&nbsp; I&#039;m selling it to fund this next project.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[mdrVB6]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4377/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-02-18T15:10:56Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Solidoodle built from 2020 openbeam project]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I keep thinking about building a new printer. I alternate between a delta (which I suspect I could watch printing for hours :-), or a corexy system (which could probably be more precise than a delta). I&#039;m really liking the corexy system here (though it doesn&#039;t seem to be complete yet):</p><p><a href="http://www.openbuilds.com/builds/c-bot.1146/">http://www.openbuilds.com/builds/c-bot.1146/</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Claghorn]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/270/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-02-18T12:57:24Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Solidoodle built from 2020 openbeam project]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I just pulled the trigger on this, got the first round of orders in to Misumi, McMaster, and Aliexpress tonight.&nbsp; I saw this project on reddit:</p><p><a href="http://www.reddit.com/r/3Dprinting/comments/2rzjwc/misumi_usa_contest/cob4802">http://www.reddit.com/r/3Dprinting/comm … st/cob4802</a><br /><a href="https://sites.google.com/site/alumimaker2/build">https://sites.google.com/site/alumimaker2/build</a></p><p>I like this build but I am much more familiar with the solidoodle carriages and extruder design.&nbsp; I am a big fan of the 8mm pillow blocks on it, which will allow me to mount the Y rods and tweak their position, unlike if I made a sheet metal frame then I would be pretty stuck with their positions and if it was a fraction of a mm off then I would be screwed.&nbsp; I also wanted to keep the direct drive extruder (not bowden) because I enjoy printing in ninjaflex.</p><p>So I decided to build this frame, including the bed holder with 12mm rods and M8 lead screw but I ordered it a little larger and I will make the X carriage as a solidoodle instead of an ultimaker.&nbsp; I will replace the stock ultimaker bed with a silicon heater, aluminum spreader and glass top.</p><p>Of course, I welcome all feedback and I will update this thread as I go.&nbsp; It will be at least a week before I see anything from Misumi and 15 to 30 days before aliexpress parts get here, so I won&#039;t be in a hurry...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[mdrVB6]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4377/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-02-18T01:43:33Z</updated>
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