1 (edited by Ggalisky 2014-12-30 07:38:02)

Topic: [ABS Colorant] - Make your own colorant!

Extruder type: Standard Filastruder with 1.75mm melt filter, full barrel insulation, hopper shaker, and vertical setup with winder.
Picture of my set up:
http://i.imgur.com/nlHCumX.jpg
I added straws were the PTFE tubing was on the laser sensor to guide the filament better.
You can find more pictures on my imgur here: http://ggalisky.imgur.com/all/

Printer type: SD2, E3D v6, Bulldog XL, Glass bed, and Lawsy's Carriages.

Mixing ratios
I usually use 1 colorant pellets to every 96 ABS pellet. Since I do not want to count each and every pellet (no one else wants to either), I ended up converting the 1:96 ratio into weight, and I ended up with 56 grams of ABS for every 1 gram of colorant. A benefit of using the weight system, is you do not have to worry about differing colorant pellet size. How did I get that number? Time for some math! 80 ABS pellets = 1g and 56 colorant pellets = 1.2g. Lets say you have 56g of ABS and you want to figure out how much teal colorant to add in order to get a 1:96 ratio.
1. Multiply 56g by 80 (this gives you the amount of total pellets) you get 4480
2. Set up a proportion like this:x/4480 = 1/96. Solve the proportion and you get 46. (you can skip the proportion and divide by 96 too)
3. Multiply 46 by 1.2 and divide everything by 56. You get 1 at the end of all that. The last number, 1 in our case, is the number of grams you need to add.

Tips and tricks for colorants:

  • Make sure to mix your colorant evenly with the rest of you plastic

  • To get awesome color consistency you need to use really fine colorant or chop up and re-extrude.

  • Some colorants dramatically slow extrusion, and mixing colorants usually leads to extremely slow extrusion

  • Big colorant pellets = horrible color consistency and the other way around too.

  • The Filastruder is perfectly capable of producing consistent colored filament. If you are getting color banding try the following: Decrease pellet size, add more colorant, or increase extrusion temp. Usually the problem is with pellets being too large and not mixing evenly.

Extrusion
Extrusion temperature: 196°C
Extrusion rate: 18 inches per minute.
Average diameter of filament: 1.72mm
Tolerances: + or - 0.05mm

Comments
After hearing about making your own colorant from a thread over at the rep rap forums, I knew I had to give it a try. Link: http://forums.reprap.org/read.php?70,256779 . I started off with 200ml of acetone in a glass jar, and then i added 5ml of paint pigment I picked up at my local hardware store. The pigment was liquid. I stirred everything until it was all mixed together. Next I added 100 grams of virgin ABS MG94 pellets into the jar. I sealed the jar up and every now and then I would shake the jar up. Once everything was all liquid, I poured it out on to a glass plate and let it dry. Unfortunately, it was really hard to get off the glass, so I put it in the freezer and it peeled right off. What I was left with was a sheet of colorant and a jar coated in dried colorant. The same freezer trick worked for the jar and the colorant reside left on the jar just peeled off! No cleaning beyond that was required, and that makes this a very easy clean up. As far as cutting up the colorant sheet, you can use a paper cutter to get nice and small colorant pieces. The resulting color was not as intense as i would have liked, so next extrusion run I will use double the amount of colorant and see how it comes out.

UPDATE: I added double the amount of colorant and am happy to say that color was more saturated.

Printing
Setting my glass bed to 104°C, the hot end to 240°C, setting the extrusion multiplier to 150% for the fist layer, and using a coat of PVA glue worked very well against warping. This is a very easy material to print. The vase took about 2 hours on spiral vase mode, and there seems to be a fixed speed that you cannot change when using the spiral vase setting. Since the vase is a single wall, you could crush it in your hands if you wanted too. I had no problems with delamination.

Brittleness
1-10 scale, 1 is TPU and 10 is acrylic. 5
Layer bonding
1-10 scale, 1 is Nylon and 10 is acrylic. 5





Comparison to commercial ABS filament: N/A ( I have never bought a roll of ABS filament thanks to the Filastruder)

Pictures:
http://i.imgur.com/fXDZuvY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7TS81wV.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/iM6yK2G.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/VQeLNBY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/EIvozdi.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Q1N0CEc.jpg

Questions? Comment? Feel free to send me a PM, or post a reply down below!

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Re: [ABS Colorant] - Make your own colorant!

I thought you might use your granulator on the sheets.  The paper cutter seems like a lot of work, but then you don't need to make very much colorant.  I wonder if a paper shredder would be able to handle it.

I"m interested in seeing if increasing the concentration of the pigment has any effect on extrusion speed.  I suspect it won't.  A lot of masterbatch is "universal" meaning it is a resin compatible with ABS and other plastics, but may not actually be ABS.  By making your own, you can insure that the carrier for the pigment is the same resin as what you are mixing it with, so you aren't adding something with a low MFI to your higher MFI ABS.

I think the bigger challenge with this method might be the pigment's response to heat.  Does anything happen to a liquid pigment during extrusion to change its color?  Does the concentration of pigment affect the properties of the extruded plastic?  It's easy to make brittle filament with powdered pigment, so the liquid may have an advantage there.  I don't know if the brittleness is caused by inconsistent mixing, which would be improved by this process, or if the particle size of the pigment weakens the filament in which case better mixing won't help.

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IanJohnson wrote:

I thought you might use your granulator on the sheets.  The paper cutter seems like a lot of work, but then you don't need to make very much colorant.  I wonder if a paper shredder would be able to handle it.

I would use my granualtor, but with the paper cutter i can get much smaller sized pieces which helps elimante color banding inn my experiance.

IanJohnson wrote:

I"m interested in seeing if increasing the concentration of the pigment has any effect on extrusion speed.  I suspect it won't.  A lot of masterbatch is "universal" meaning it is a resin compatible with ABS and other plastics, but may not actually be ABS.  By making your own, you can insure that the carrier for the pigment is the same resin as what you are mixing it with, so you aren't adding something with a low MFI to your higher MFI ABS.

I am still experimenting with ratios and the amount I put in. I do not think it will affect the MFI of the ABS too much, but until I do more testing, I can not give an answer.

IanJohnson wrote:

I think the bigger challenge with this method might be the pigment's response to heat.  Does anything happen to a liquid pigment during extrusion to change its color?  Does the concentration of pigment affect the properties of the extruded plastic?  It's easy to make brittle filament with powdered pigment, so the liquid may have an advantage there.  I don't know if the brittleness is caused by inconsistent mixing, which would be improved by this process, or if the particle size of the pigment weakens the filament in which case better mixing won't help.

I tried using fabric dye, but it did not dissolve into the acetone, so from here on out, my thinking is that paint pigments ( or any pigment that can dissolve into the acetone ABS mix) may be the only way to go. Th filament did not seem as brittle as some other ABS colorants I have tested, but i still did find a few brittle spots.

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Re: [ABS Colorant] - Make your own colorant!

People have used RIT dye to color ABS prints by mixing it with acetone, is that what you used or did you have a different brand?  It might work with this method as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d272v6G28wQ

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Re: [ABS Colorant] - Make your own colorant!

This is so cool.

So basically acetone melts the plastic so pigment can be mixed in it, then the acetone evaporates over time and you're left with a colored plastic? (plastic + pigment).
Is this all?

BTW, what kind of pigments will work and which ones not to use?

And just curious, why is this winded so bad?
http://i.imgur.com/iM6yK2G.jpg

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How does this compare to buying regular colorant as far as cost goes?

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I dont have an advanced BOM built, but the things you have to buy to make colorant are acetone, virgin ABS, a glass jar, and paint pigment. I think it is a little more expensive than buying colorant if you include your time to make it. Next time I make a batch I will make a post the cost.

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redbarret wrote:

This is so cool.

So basically acetone melts the plastic so pigment can be mixed in it, then the acetone evaporates over time and you're left with a colored plastic? (plastic + pigment).
Is this all?

BTW, what kind of pigments will work and which ones not to use?

And just curious, why is this winded so bad?
http://i.imgur.com/iM6yK2G.jpg

It is winded badly because I  accidentally let the spool unwind.

Any pugment that dissolves completely in acetone should work. Always be mindful not to put anything in your Filastruder that will affect your health like PVC. (Chlorine gas)

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9 (edited by Ggalisky 2015-02-06 16:17:41)

Re: [ABS Colorant] - Make your own colorant!

redbarret wrote:

This is so cool.

So basically acetone melts the plastic so pigment can be mixed in it, then the acetone evaporates over time and you're left with a colored plastic? (plastic + pigment).
Is this all?

BTW, what kind of pigments will work and which ones not to use?

And just curious, why is this winded so bad?
http://i.imgur.com/iM6yK2G.jpg

It is winded badly because I  accidentally let the spool unwind. (user error)

Any pigment that dissolves completely in acetone should work. Always be mindful not to put anything in your Filastruder that will affect your health like PVC. (Chlorine gas)

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Re: [ABS Colorant] - Make your own colorant!

Hello @Ggalisky, i am try to make colorant for my ABS pellet, I found the Blue, Red, Yellow and Green at the paint shop and its working with my Filastruder.

Because of my ABS Pellet are Natural White but i want to make Pure White Filament but there are no white pigment at Paint Shop.
Can you please help how to make Pure White Colorant?

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You can search online for titanium dioxide pigment.   You may never get a real brilliant white as long as it is mixed with cream colored natural pellets.  I think white would turn out better mixed with clear ABS (actually MABS) but that can be hard to find in small quantities.

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fila007 wrote:

Hello @Ggalisky, i am try to make colorant for my ABS pellet, I found the Blue, Red, Yellow and Green at the paint shop and its working with my Filastruder.

Because of my ABS Pellet are Natural White but i want to make Pure White Filament but there are no white pigment at Paint Shop.
Can you please help how to make Pure White Colorant?

I have no idea about white. I did not even come up with the idea, a guy over on the reprap forums did.

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I m very surprised for the very complex hard way some of the hobbyiest 3d filament makers ar suggested and teaching for others,like """"""making pigments from abs and colorant and acetone and taking small parts and putting thease parts with other pellets......."""""

Actualy this forum is for hobbyest people,so most of guys in her has homemade or other small filament makers,thease small machines has a very small comperssing chambers and mixing in such machines is not a good idea,i m sure most of guys have problems with coloring pellets,sometimes a small part of the coloring pellet is extruding alone.

Even the colorant pellets that we buy it from professional stores and manufactors are not suitable for our small machines!!!!

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I beg to differ. This is actually a brilliant way to achieve colors unavailable on the open market. Mixing paint/acetone the way ggalisky pointed out seems like overkill, but it does work as he has proven.
Personally, I have achieved a few new colors like burgundy, olive drab, and indigo just by blending, pelletizing the desired sections, then re-extruded with a similar original ratio. Masterbatch is the most common for colorants and have been the most preferred for home extrusion, but I prefer powder colorant myself.
Masterbatch is more abundant, but powder colorant is far more consistent with no color banding.

Why would you say including colorant on a Filastruder is a bad idea? It has been proven time and time again that it is not only easy, but also reliable.

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