1 (edited by fr333n3rgy 2014-04-27 17:22:32)

Topic: XYZ Da Vinci Filament Counter Resetter

In order not to spam existing threads, I thought I start a new thread dedicated to the filament resetting for the XYZ Da Vinci printer.

As you know cartridge supplies for the XYZ are low so it's necessary to be able to reset your existing cartridge usage counter and use alternative filament to keep your 3D printing going.

Over the past month, I've posted various versions of the XYZ resetter (XYZAP!) on thingiverse.com see: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:302209 and related links. This can be printed by yourself (I recommend you print the "pro" version STL files as they have stronger retaining clips).

Inside this resetter there is an Arduino pro-mini board programmed with a variation of voltivo's (Oliver Fueckert's) code therefore it is fully compatible with his code which is available on github (https://github.com/voltivo/davinci_fila … _eprom.ino). Just use sketch to upload to the arduino and build it all with the information at my page http://wctek.com/xyz or Oliver's page at http://voltivo.com/blog/da-vinci-reset-eeprom.

If you're not technical and/or can't be bothered building the resetter, you can get it built and tested, or, if you do want to play with it and build it yourself, you can get the parts on my site such as:

A pre-programmed micro controller board
3 gold plated spring-loaded pins
2 pin jumper or pre-cut link (to set the temperature to 230*C) new
One ECR1632 3V battery

NOTE: if you opt for the DIY option, you will still need to print the 3D enclosure from thingiverse.com (see above) and solder 3 wires from the arduino board to the 3 pins to build the complete resetter. A push-button is also needed if you want to build the pro version.

Have fun,
F3

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Thank you so very much for doing this!!!

I ordered the completed version from your site. Can't wait to get my grubby little paws on it. Nice to know I can use the filament I want to use...

Thanks again!

smile

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I believe he meant 3D Printer Discussion under the 3D Printers section.

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fr333n3rgy wrote:

where is that? I don't see an "Other 3D Printer discussion" section under 3D Printing Community ...


Moved it.

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Thanks for moving it. smile

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ValiantOne wrote:

Thank you so very much for doing this!!!

I ordered the completed version from your site. Can't wait to get my grubby little paws on it. Nice to know I can use the filament I want to use...

Thanks again!

smile

you're welcome! I used some transparent filament with the xyz (using the 230*C settings) and it comes out well, although the filament is more "gummy" so it's suitable for some things only - definitely not small stuff, more like vases, windows etc ...

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7 (edited by fr333n3rgy 2014-04-30 21:56:12)

Re: XYZ Da Vinci Filament Counter Resetter

I was working on the new covers for the resetter and I just realized how big difference how you print the cover makes. See the attached picture. the one on the left is printed upside down with the clips up, the one on the right is printed standing on the back (clips facing forward).

If you're printing the covers out, I suggest you rotate it so it stands straight and not on the back (arrow on the cover pointing up). You will get a much better finished product.

F3

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Just order the complete kit ready made, thanks for developing this neat device.

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orosalsero1 wrote:

Just order the complete kit ready made, thanks for developing this neat device.

You're welcome. It'll go out either Tomorrow or Monday.

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http://www.ebay.ca/itm/2013-Version-ATm … 20e078e319

Is this something I want to get if I want to DIY the resetter?
Is it simple to connect and have the code import?

I have no experience with similar device.

Thanks

11 (edited by fr333n3rgy 2014-05-11 03:43:33)

Re: XYZ Da Vinci Filament Counter Resetter

If you want to build the one I put together, then all the information (and links where to get stuff from) is at http://wctek.com/xyz ...

Having said that, you can use any arduino but the issue is going to be the interfacing to the cartridge (you will need some sort of connectors if you use the arduino uno) -- that is why I made the XYZAP! resetter.

Go to that link and see the parts that you need to build one.

Good Luck,
F3

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Here is an FYI for everyone on my experience -   I got all of this set up and had a white abs cartridge in the printer.  I left it in and tried to feed some clear abs for a print.   

The machine would not load the filament.  It kept telling me to load the filament.  As soon as i tried to load the white filament the printer came alive and started to draw in the filament. 

But it would not work with the clear.    I found out that their is an optical sensor in the extruder which verifies the color coming in matches the cartridge.  No match no load.   

Even if I tricked it by putting the white in for a second and getting it to pull the clear in.  As soon as I sent a print over the machine errored and said either their was no cartridge in or I was out of filament and it would not print.

Basically someone with more knowledge than I needs to find out where the line of code is for color and allow that to be changed to match what you plan to put in.

I wanted to be able to set a spool on top and leave an empty cartridge in all the time and then reset every once and a while.

Not sure if this is only a problem with the clear or if it can actually see color?

Just an FYI

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The printer has an infrared sensor that detect the presence of the filament - clear lets the infrared pass through and the printer thinks there is no filament in the extruder. This is discussed here -> http://www.soliforum.com/topic/6401/da- … ent-check/ but all you really need to do is put a piece of tape or pratically block the infrared beam in the sensor - see pictures in that post ...

F3

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I was able to take care of the filament sensor and I created a page with detailed instructions and photos.  I was able to print translucent filament without any problem and the other colors still work fine.

The forum will not allow me to put a link to the instructions and pictures but if you click on my link in my signature it will get you there.

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I added a clear filament window and now print the case solid black - looks much nicer. Not bad for 3D printed... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7bmTZkTHAI

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Re: XYZ Da Vinci Filament Counter Resetter

Just wondering if I need the fancy enclosure. I have an arduino, but I havent gotten around to playing with it. After copying and pasting the sketch and uploading it to the arduino, what needs to be done to actually perform the sketch to reset the filament?

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I printed the simple version without a cover, and just used it for alignment of the pins to mate up to the chip. Short wires soldered to those pins, and 'gator clips to my Arduino & breadboard works great.

I also tend to muck around with the code to customize what it's doing, so having it plugged in to the USB when I want to use it is more common than not.

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Just so I dont mess anything up, I have the sketch uploaded onto an aduino mega 2560. If this arduino is even comparable, where exactly do I connect wires from/to? and do I need to use a switch to initiate the reset?

Thanks in advance

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heidkampn1 wrote:

Just wondering if I need the fancy enclosure. I have an arduino, but I havent gotten around to playing with it. After copying and pasting the sketch and uploading it to the arduino, what needs to be done to actually perform the sketch to reset the filament?

Take a look at my website -- you need to connect 3 wires to the cartridge -- the enclosure makes it easier that's all ...

http://wctek.com/xyz

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heidkampn1 wrote:

Just so I dont mess anything up, I have the sketch uploaded onto an aduino mega 2560. If this arduino is even comparable, where exactly do I connect wires from/to? and do I need to use a switch to initiate the reset?

Thanks in advance

The mega will work fine, just use pin 7 to connect to the data-pin in the cartridge - all information is @ http://wctek.com/xyz

You don't need a switch but you do need a way to start the code. You can either connect/disconnect the battery wires, press the reset switch (after it runs for the first time) or use a switch to connect/disconnect the battery (as I do).

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fr333n3rgy wrote:
heidkampn1 wrote:

Just so I dont mess anything up, I have the sketch uploaded onto an aduino mega 2560. If this arduino is even comparable, where exactly do I connect wires from/to? and do I need to use a switch to initiate the reset?

Thanks in advance

The mega will work fine, just use pin 7 to connect to the data-pin in the cartridge - all information is @ http://wctek.com/xyz

You don't need a switch but you do need a way to start the code. You can either connect/disconnect the battery wires, press the reset switch (after it runs for the first time) or use a switch to connect/disconnect the battery (as I do).

Your voltage is too low.

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Ok here is a challenge. A byte in the EEPROM is used to let the software know that pla is installed I presume this is to slow down the feed rate ... Does anyone know which byte?

Perhaps the ones of you using the xyzpro unit (see http://wctek.com/shop could paste the dump if you find it in here?

I'll be looking for it as well of course but any help is appreciated ...

Until then I was able to print pla at 240 degrees and bed set to 85 degrees but I still think we can do better ...

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I just wanted to say I got my resetter yesterday, and it works fantastic...tried a couple of different settings and the DaVinci sees them all just as expected...thanks for all your work on this!

Any suggestions for a good external spool holder? Found a couple on thingiverse but they arent large enough to hold the large spool of BuMat transparent filament I got off Amazon....

Also, this may sound dumb, but is there a video of how to properly open the resetter like if I needed to replace the battery one day? It looks like it would just pop off, but doesn't easily and I don't wanna chance breaking anything..

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Will the resetter work with duo 2?

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Hi new to 3d printing. I just got a new xyz 1.0  If I buy the chip resetter, do I have do to any software changes? I dont want to mess around with warranty issues or mess with software problems.