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**Kamatari** · 2012-10-22 09:46:32

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Has anyone got a complete settings for KISSlicer or is this correct? (taken from what Ian Johnson said over on the google groups)

To use it with Solidoodle in the Material Settings tab, set the Max Extruder RPM to 500 and the Min Extruder RPM to 1. Flow Tweak is the same thing as Extrusion Multiplier in Slic3r. Destring MM [Suck] is the same as Retraction Distance. Prime is like Extra Distance on Restart, and should be the same number as Suck. Set Wipe to 0.
Under the Extruders tab, mm/rev should be 1. In the Gcode tab, set Firmware type to 5D - Absolute E and 5D Temp Gcode to M104. I'll need to do a full post later, but those are the settings needed to work with the Solidoodle and its stepper powered extruder.
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**IanJohnson** · 2012-10-22 17:13:02

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I'm getting ready to do a post or Wiki page on KISSlicer. In the meantime, here are screen shots of my settings. The start gcode should be the Solidoodle version, which is meant to place 0,0 at the center of the bed.

Flow tweak is the same as Extrusion Multiplier in Slic3r. KISSlicer doesn't have a setting for # of solid layers, it does skin thickness instead. Set the skin thickness as a multiple of the layer thickness (disregard the number for skin thickness in the screenshot).

Fiber Diameter is the diameter of the filament. Don't enter 1.75, measure the actual diameter with a caliper at several points and enter the average.

**lawsy** · 2012-10-22 19:43:13

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Re: KISSlicer

How is the performance?

I'm very comfortable with Slic3r and Repetier-Host, and that interface doesn't appeal to me much. Just wondering if it's worth giving it a try.

**IanJohnson** · 2012-10-22 20:25:37

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It's faster than slic3r, has excellent support generation, and does rafts. If I want to do anything that needs support I definitely go with Kisslicer.

**Kamatari** · 2012-10-23 00:19:54

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Re: KISSlicer

Should Kisslicer move the bed when going across layers as a printer i attempted earlier it just seemed to drag the extruder across it

**IanJohnson** · 2012-10-23 00:38:36

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It doesn't have Z lift yet. That's one of the main feature requests.

**solijohn** · 2012-10-24 16:07:03

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Re: KISSlicer

IanJohnson wrote:

I'm getting ready to do a post or Wiki page on KISSlicer. In the meantime, here are screen shots of my settings. The start gcode should be the Solidoodle version, which is meant to place 0,0 at the center of the bed.
Flow tweak is the same as Extrusion Multiplier in Slic3r. KISSlicer doesn't have a setting for # of solid layers, it does skin thickness instead. Set the skin thickness as a multiple of the layer thickness (disregard the number for skin thickness in the screenshot).
Fiber Diameter is the diameter of the filament. Don't enter 1.75, measure the actual diameter with a caliper at several points and enter the average.

Any chance you could copy it over to the official wiki?

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**JustSomeGuyTN** · 2012-10-30 12:56:54

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Ian,

Could you copy out your whole start Gcode for KISSlicer? There's a scroll bar in that window so I'm guessing it's not all visible. Also in the other thread you said to get the preview to work with Repetier that an x and y value had to change but I'm not sure exactly what you meant. Could you go over that again? Thanks.

IanJohnson wrote:

I'm getting ready to do a post or Wiki page on KISSlicer. In the meantime, here are screen shots of my settings. The start gcode should be the Solidoodle version, which is meant to place 0,0 at the center of the bed.
Flow tweak is the same as Extrusion Multiplier in Slic3r. KISSlicer doesn't have a setting for # of solid layers, it does skin thickness instead. Set the skin thickness as a multiple of the layer thickness (disregard the number for skin thickness in the screenshot).
Fiber Diameter is the diameter of the filament. Don't enter 1.75, measure the actual diameter with a caliper at several points and enter the average.

**IanJohnson** · 2012-10-30 13:16:08

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Re: KISSlicer

G21
G91
G28 X
G28 Y
G1 X-82 Y-76 F3000
G28 Z
G90
G92 X0 Y0 Z0 E0

Solidoodle uses moves like this one -

G1 Y200 F3000

to run the axis far enough to hit the endstop. Repetier doesn't know where the endstop is, so it will assume it went the whole 200mm and show the model way off in space. If you replace it with

G28 Y

it will home to the Y axis. Repetier knows that homing stops at the endstop, and it knows where the endstop is, so it will place the preview correctly. The end result is the same for both versions, the difference is the effect on the preview.

**Kvirre** · 2012-10-30 14:20:06

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Re: KISSlicer

Does it work seamlessly with Repetier (CLI) or do you need to run this separably and then import g-code?

**solijohn** · 2012-11-01 18:54:55

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Kvirre wrote:

Does it work seamlessly with Repetier (CLI) or do you need to run this separably and then import g-code?

I don't mind the hassle of importing G-code for some great prints.

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**DePartedPrinter** · 2013-02-25 21:40:27

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Re: KISSlicer

bump.

seen many people talking about KISSlicer. Thought this might be relevant again.

Ian, did you ever use the offset to center prints on the bed? When I set up KISSlicer I set these at x: 75 and y: 75 so that my prints are centered when I bring them over to RH.

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**nickythegreek** · 2013-02-25 22:14:53

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I used the 75, 75 offset that you mention departed. I like kisslicer and I hate it at the same time. I really wish it had the ability to different solid layers on top, bottom and perimeter. As it stands now, you have to designate a value that is used for all three. But I found it easier to dial in than slic3r but it can't yet fully replace slic3r either. But good lord is it fast at slicing!

M140 S70 ;set bed to 70C (glassbed+hairspray)
G21; set mm units
G28 ;home all axis
G90; set absolute coordinates
G92 E0; reset extruder distance
M190 S70 ;set and wait for bed temp of 70 to be reached
M104 S195; set extruder temp and start heating
G1 Z5 F300 ;move platform down 5mm
G1 X5 Y5 F3000 ;move extruder to front left
M109 S195; wait for extruder temp to be reached
G1 Z[first_layer_height] F200 ;move platform close to nozzle
G1 E7 ;extruder anchor
G92 E0; reset extrusion distance
G1 F3000; Set feed rate for first move.

**DePartedPrinter** · 2013-02-25 22:25:15

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^I find that I get much better looking prints with KISSlicer than with Slic3r. As you said it is incredibly fast with slicing objects.

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**DePartedPrinter** · 2013-02-25 22:27:53

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Nicky,

you have your Destring suck set at 1.1 and your Prime set at 1.15. Did you set it like this on purpose?

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**nickythegreek** · 2013-02-25 22:48:08

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ya, that way it is adding .05mm back when it primes. I think I need to still adjust those values a bit. Basically I have been habitually lazy at actually doing an extruder calibration since my RH doesn't have the eeprom settings menu. So I do alot of fudging.

I just learned last week that I can set the value by issuing a M92 command and then saving those values to EEPROM with a M500.

My start gcode puts the anchor in the front left as that is better for me. Your mileage may vary depending on where your glass clips are.

**DePartedPrinter** · 2013-02-25 23:25:05

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nickythegreek wrote:

ya, that way it is adding .05mm back when it primes.

I have both set the same and I feel like I need to dial back on the prime because there is slightly too much plastic being extruded right where the new layer starts.

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**IanJohnson** · 2013-02-25 23:36:44

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Prime needs to be at least as much as suck, or else it will gradually back the filament out of the extruder. I keep them the same, having prime a higher number is basically the same as distance after restart in slic3r.

I haven't messed with the offset, I usually orient in RH and then save as STL. I really wish there was integration. If KS has a command line mode, then I think it would be possible.

**DePartedPrinter** · 2013-02-26 00:19:51

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IanJohnson wrote:

Prime needs to be at least as much as suck, or else it will gradually back the filament out of the extruder. I keep them the same, having prime a higher number is basically the same as distance after restart in slic3r.

Why would this gradually cause the filament to back out of the extruder?

You have to assume that some printers do not suck filament as well as they prime which is why they allow you to set different settings for each.

Update: I have prime set at 1.15 and suck at 1.25, this is helping to control the blobs of plastic that form where the extruder starts a new path after a move. You probably want to adjust this for the plastic you are using.

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**Jebus314** · 2013-03-25 18:11:51

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Re: KISSlicer

Thanks for this thread. It should be a sticky so those of us at the entry level can branch out to other slicers.

Thoughts on using a pillar to clean the extruder?

I like to use a skirt to make sure any old filament is out of the way before the actual print starts but this is not an option on Kisslicer.

**nickythegreek** · 2013-03-25 20:26:16

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I recommend using an anchor in your start gcode to help clean the nozzle of old filament. I find that a skirt really helps to prime the nozzle though, the pillar will probably get that job done.

**Jebus314** · 2013-03-25 20:32:25

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nickythegreek wrote:

I recommend using an anchor in your start gcode to help clean the nozzle of old filament. I find that a skirt really helps to prime the nozzle though, the pillar will probably get that job done.

I did find a skirt setting under raft on main screen but there is little control of it. The pilar worked for a small test print but it takes up too much bed space for a normal sliced print.

How do I set an anchor in the g-code? Sorry if it is already in the thread but I guess I keep reading past it.

**CrazyBear** · 2013-03-25 22:44:00

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I have a SD3... Is this ok for the "G-Code Prefix"?

M107
G21; set mm units
G28 ;home all axis
G90; set absolute coordinates
G92 E0; reset extruder distance
M104 S200; set extruder temp and start heating
G1 Z5 F300 ;move platform down 5mm
G1 X195 Y195 F3000 ; move to back right corner
M109 S200; wait for extruder temp to be reached
G1 Z.3000 F200 ;move platform close to nozzle
;G1 E7; extrude anchor
G1 F3000; center print head
G92 E0; reset extrusion distance
G90 ; use absolute coordinates
G21 ; set units to millimeters
G92 E0
M82 ; use absolute distances for extrusion
G1 F4500.000 E-1.00000
G92 E0
G1 Z0.300 F3600.000

Thank you in advance for your time,

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**Jebus314** · 2013-03-26 00:27:02

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Re: KISSlicer

Any thoughts on suck verses hop? Is there a hop setting KS? I don't think I understand the anchor idea. I have the G1 E7 in my prefix but I do not see what I would think is an anchor on the bed.

**DePartedPrinter** · 2013-04-10 16:57:23

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Here are my settings:

also for g-code:

M107
M104 S195 ; set temperature
G21; set mm units
G28 ;home all axis
G90; set absolute coordinates
G92 E0; reset extruder distance
M104 S195; set extruder temp and start heating
G1 Z5 F300 ;move platform down 5mm
G1 X145 Y145 F3000 ; move to back right corner
M109 S195; wait for extruder temp to be reached
G1 Z.3 F200 ;move platform close to nozzle
G1 E7; extruder anchor
G92 E0; reset extrusion distance
G1 F3000; Set feed rate for first move.

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9 Reply by IanJohnson 2012-10-30 13:16:08

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