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Topic: Calling UK/EU Filastruder owners (backers)

Hi all,

I thought it would be good to coordinate with other UK/EU Filastruder owners to try to source decent pellets.

So far I'm only having luck with bulk suppliers (1 ton or more) and at silly prices.  If enough of us are interested then I'm sure a bulk buy will be worthwhile.

Thoughts, etc.  maybe someone out there is already doing this?

Regards,
Craig

Masterbatch, ABS and PLA Pellets available for UK and Europe.
http://www.emakershop.com/Seller=1324

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Re: Calling UK/EU Filastruder owners (backers)

plastribution.co.uk will sell you 25kg

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Please count me in. I'm based in Canterbury but in London often.

Cheers,
Chris

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+1 from Belgium

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reesy wrote:

plastribution.co.uk will sell you 25kg

Thanks, I'll follow up.

Masterbatch, ABS and PLA Pellets available for UK and Europe.
http://www.emakershop.com/Seller=1324

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CraigRK wrote:
reesy wrote:

plastribution.co.uk will sell you 25kg

Thanks, I'll follow up.

No probs, they dont have the same stuff Tim included in your kit to save you from asking.

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+1 from Germany

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reesy wrote:
CraigRK wrote:
reesy wrote:

plastribution.co.uk will sell you 25kg

Thanks, I'll follow up.

No probs, they dont have the same stuff Tim included in your kit to save you from asking.

http://eur.sabic-ip.com/ordeur/sso_logon451.jsp

These guys will. smile

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elmoret wrote:
reesy wrote:
CraigRK wrote:

Thanks, I'll follow up.

No probs, they dont have the same stuff Tim included in your kit to save you from asking.

http://eur.sabic-ip.com/ordeur/sso_logon451.jsp

These guys will. smile

Yes, they would.  I have been trying the various distributors, so far UK MOQ (min order qty) is 1,250kg, so 1.25 tonnes.  This is a bit much for 4 who have currently shown interest on this forum.

I'm progressing will all leads at the moment though.

If anyone has other ideas/leads, please feel free to drop me a line...

C

Masterbatch, ABS and PLA Pellets available for UK and Europe.
http://www.emakershop.com/Seller=1324

10 (edited by crisdo98 2013-07-19 09:24:23)

Re: Calling UK/EU Filastruder owners (backers)

Righto, got some prices back from plastribution.co.uk. These are extrudeable high quality pellets as opposed to injection moulding plastics.

Clear ABS:

Chi Mei, Polylac, PA-758                25kg-75kg            £8.40/pkg

                                                                100kgs                  £5.79/pkg



Natural ABS:

Chi Mei, Polylac, PA-709                25kg-75kg            £6.60/pkg

                                                                100kgs                  £4.60/pkg



Natural PA6:

Radici, S40E 100                                 25kg-100kgs       £4.76/pkg

With colour master batches, our minimum order quantities are 5kg lots.

The price for 5kg lots are generally around £35/pkg, but are subject to colour matching.

The lead time for masterbatch is typically up to 8 working days.



On the ABS, the minimum bag size quantity is 25kgs.



Please note that on small orders a small order delivery charge does apply, please see these below.



Delivery Charges:

25kgs
   

£17.50

50kgs
   

£25.00

75kgs
   

£35.00

100kgs - 475kgs
   

£45.00

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Re: Calling UK/EU Filastruder owners (backers)

crisdo98 wrote:

Righto, got some prices back from plastribution.co.uk.

Great, thanks for the update.

I've still got some other leads, so waiting for that to come through as well. 

Then I guess we need to agree next steps.  I'm playing with the numbers and will post back here.

If anyone else has ideas then let me know as I don't want to duplicate effort, but I am happy to take the lead on ordering in bulk when I know we have found the best deal and then redistributing.  Of course, the re-bagging and re-shipping will take some effort and add to the cost, but the numbers seem to stack up as the prices seem to come down dramatically as bulk goes up.

Regards,
Craig

Masterbatch, ABS and PLA Pellets available for UK and Europe.
http://www.emakershop.com/Seller=1324

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Re: Calling UK/EU Filastruder owners (backers)

Great! If you find anything in Holland I'm happy to make a journey from Canterbury to collect in person.

I think £4.60 is an OK price but I'm sure we can get it cheaper. Buying filament in 25kg lots I'd suspect would be about £15kg max anyway so really want to get it down to make it worthwhile.

I've seen it for like €3 per kg in Germany but thinking about it now it may have been pellets for injection molding.

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Hi Guy's just to through it out there,

I was a Beta tester, got cracking results from ABS from plastribution!

Can't remember the exact resin but honestly it was some of the best filament I ever had! Much better than stuff from ebay suppliers etc etc....

Still got 20kg left in the sack I ordered although I can't sell it! Cost me/my work ~ £100 but it is a lot of plastic!

If anyones interested PM me and I'll find the exact order that I made!

Also I'm interested in ordering a bunch for myself (personal) might be able to use my academic sway to get a discount, last time I paid around £4 a kilo.

Cheers

Rob

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Re: Calling UK/EU Filastruder owners (backers)

It'd be great if you posted the resin here!

And for us non-UK'ers, "cracking" means good, right?

EDIT: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cracking

: very impressive or effective : great

I guess so.

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elmoret wrote:

It'd be great if you posted the resin here!

And for us non-UK'ers, "cracking" means good, right?

Correct :-)

I'm PM'ing Rob, but will also post here.

I agree that it would be usefull for all to know.  I do however suspect that the suppliers are starting to feel harassed given some of the responses I've had, so co-ordinating our efforts into a bulk buy might make more sense.

I am also investigating trying to get a decent supply chain going, but struggling to do so at the moment given the points I made above.

Masterbatch, ABS and PLA Pellets available for UK and Europe.
http://www.emakershop.com/Seller=1324

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Re: Calling UK/EU Filastruder owners (backers)

elmoret wrote:

It'd be great if you posted the resin here!

And for us non-UK'ers, "cracking" means good, right?

EDIT: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cracking

: very impressive or effective : great

I guess so.

Quality post...
Does Tim speak English ?
Nope tongue

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Re: Calling UK/EU Filastruder owners (backers)

Hi all,

Apologies for going a bit quiet, I've been trying to progress the leads I have.

I fear that MG94 is simply not going to happen in the EU/UK at this point.  I can get it, but the lead times and cost are plain silly.

I am about to place an order for a locally available sample quantity (i.e. 1x25kg bag) of pellets which I would like to distribute to the UK/EU users who are interested in testing.  Sort of a Beta test of the pellets.

I will need to recover costs of these pellets, as although the word "Sample" is included above, that simply means they'll sell me one bag for testing.  Instead of the normal 500/1000kg MOQ's.

The only proviso of the "beta programme" is that you advise whether it is worth ordering in bulk for the everyone.

If you are potentially interested, then please PM me with at least your Town/Country and how much you would want to test (e.g. 1,2 or 5 kg).  Shipping into Europe could turn out expensive, Royal Mail looks like about £7-odd per kg, so may not be practical.  If you have any ideas on this, let me know.  Shipping in the UK can be done via courier for higher weights which can be quite cheap.

PM'ing me is not a commitment to buy as of course I don't have a final price yet, I'm trying to get this as low as possible.  I'll post here as soon as I know.

Regards,
Craig

Masterbatch, ABS and PLA Pellets available for UK and Europe.
http://www.emakershop.com/Seller=1324

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Re: Calling UK/EU Filastruder owners (backers)

Which resin are you looking at? If you have choices, post here and I/we will try to help advise.

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Re: Calling UK/EU Filastruder owners (backers)

Hi again,

I've ordered 25kg of ABS.  It is Magnum 8391.  It has a lower MFI than MG94, but at least it can be bought in the UK at reasonable quantities.

If anyone wants some, it will be £4.50/kg + shipping, so a bit cheaper than MG94 in the US.  Looks like UK shipping will be about £6 per kg via Royal Mail, but if multiple kgs are wanted then a courier will be cheaper (Parcel Monkey says £8.39 for up to 10kg).

Shipping to Germany looks like c.£18 for 5kg.

I am also ordering some Masterbatch which I can share out, but waiting for final pricing as I am only planning on buying 1kg each of a selection of colours so will ample to colour more than the 25kg of pellets I'm buying.

Please drop me a line if interested. 

Regards,
Craig

Masterbatch, ABS and PLA Pellets available for UK and Europe.
http://www.emakershop.com/Seller=1324

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collectplus.co.uk will deliver upto 2kg from £4.89 and 10-20kg from £8.29 (both these prices include VAT) in a few days.
Its tracked and better than Royal Mail

UPS Next day service is 6.99 (plus VAT) for upto 20kg (if I remember, not quite sure on the upper limits) through Interparcel.com
Interparcel will also be cheaper for European stuff.

HTH

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Re: Calling UK/EU Filastruder owners (backers)

reesy wrote:

collectplus.co.uk will deliver upto 2kg from £4.89 and 10-20kg from £8.29 (both these prices include VAT) in a few days.
Its tracked and better than Royal Mail

UPS Next day service is 6.99 (plus VAT) for upto 20kg (if I remember, not quite sure on the upper limits) through Interparcel.com
Interparcel will also be cheaper for European stuff.

HTH

Thanks.  I haven't sent stuff out in ages so it helps knowing.  If anyone has other options then let me know.

I expect to receive the shipment on Monday.

Still waiting on details relating to the masterbatch.

C

Masterbatch, ABS and PLA Pellets available for UK and Europe.
http://www.emakershop.com/Seller=1324

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Ireland +1

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5kg here please. Have Pmd you about possible collection.

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Hi all,

Look what was waiting for me when I got home!!
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a217/CraigRK/RepRap/ABS%20Pellets/th_IMG_1764.jpg

Although a number of people have expressed interest, only one has confirmed at this time.  I'd like to spread this around a bit to get some test results, so let me know if you are seriously interested, costs quoted before.  I expect to ship either 1kg or 5kg, so take your pick.

I am also about to order Masterbatch in White, Black, Red, Blue & Yellow which I will be able to distribute as well.  I noted that OSP ships the Masterbatch in 2oz bags (i.e. about 50g), however given that the supplier is quoting 1% mixing ratios (ok, we still need to experiment and see what works with our setups), I was thinking if dividing this into 25g (1oz) bags instead.  I have yet to confirm final pricing on this, but should have some clarity later in the week.

Happy extruding.
Craig

Masterbatch, ABS and PLA Pellets available for UK and Europe.
http://www.emakershop.com/Seller=1324

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Re: Calling UK/EU Filastruder owners (backers)

Hi again,

I now also have some Masterbatch to go with the ABS resin.  Only a small quantity, so 25g (1oz) bags.  I've got white, black, blue, red, yellow for £1 per colour per 25g bag.  The mix ratio is meant to be 1%, so 25g will colour 2.5kg, but of course all subject to testing.  I haven't managed to test any yet as my garage is currently overcrowded due to losing my storage space elsewhere.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a217/CraigRK/RepRap/ABS%20Pellets/th_IMG_1774.jpg

If you want some let me know, remember, this is for testing purposes, so feedback will be appreciated.

Regards,
Craig

Masterbatch, ABS and PLA Pellets available for UK and Europe.
http://www.emakershop.com/Seller=1324