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Topic: Bed stabilizer I made

*****CREDIT TO DAMON550 for the original*****


After seeing a post in here the maker didnt have the STL's so I made my own based off the pic he had up. Fits the SD3, 4 and apprentice. The left arm is shorter to accommodate the door on the SD4. Youd need 8mm smooth rod, two lmu bearings and some m3 cap screws or grub screws . Posting here so ppl can see but when fully done will post STL in that section.

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Low infill for speeding up test prints thats why it cracked...at 100% things are rock solid

"All your base are belong to us." SD4 with a RUMBA, supernight PS, 40mm fan on X motor, lawsey carriages with new better tolerance rods, flanged rear bearings, new NEMA 17 with leadscrew on Z-Axis, and e3d v6 with MK5.


Ward and Jago are my heroes tongue

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OneMoreCast wrote:

After seeing a post in here the maker didnt have the STL's so I made my own based off the pic he had up. Fits the SD3, 4 and apprentice. The left arm is shorter to accommodate the door on the SD4. Youd need 8mm smooth rod, two lmu bearings and some m3 cap screws or grub screws . Posting here so ppl can see but when fully done will post STL in that section.

http://s1.postimg.org/ry8eubwuz/image.jpg

http://s1.postimg.org/odcjb3sbf/image.jpg

Looks great!  I assume the cubical blocks hold the rods against the front of the frame?

And please let us know when/where you post them!

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Yeah the blocks are for the rod and have spots for screws to hold to frame and hold rod (which arent needed really) will post in STL section here and on thingiverse by end of today. Still ironing out some buggies

"All your base are belong to us." SD4 with a RUMBA, supernight PS, 40mm fan on X motor, lawsey carriages with new better tolerance rods, flanged rear bearings, new NEMA 17 with leadscrew on Z-Axis, and e3d v6 with MK5.


Ward and Jago are my heroes tongue

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its over in STL section

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OneMoreCast wrote:

its over in STL section

Nice!  Any chance you can put up the individual pieces?  I'd like to change the layout on my bed...

Thanks!

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Yeah Ill split them up. I was going to do that initially but figured ppl would use cura and split if needed, but give me bit and ill split em

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Did that prevent the bed from shaking so much and help resolution? Just curious

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My resolution was never a big deal but I would get ripples when projects were towards front...the bed frame is beyond solid. Absolutely helped. Its up on thingiverse. Solidoodle bed stabilizer

"All your base are belong to us." SD4 with a RUMBA, supernight PS, 40mm fan on X motor, lawsey carriages with new better tolerance rods, flanged rear bearings, new NEMA 17 with leadscrew on Z-Axis, and e3d v6 with MK5.


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Thanks man I'll teat it out tomorrow. I have the old wood bed on my sd3 and it shakes terrible sometimes and im pretty sure that's where I get ripples from sometimes

OneMoreCast wrote:

My resolution was never a big deal but I would get ripples when projects were towards front...the bed frame is beyond solid. Absolutely helped. Its up on thingiverse. Solidoodle bed stabilizer

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It wont attach to wood bed. It was made for the SD printers with the metal beds...you can use my basic idea and tweak how it attaches, but as for direct fit if you have the old bed and not metal one, this wont be print and install

"All your base are belong to us." SD4 with a RUMBA, supernight PS, 40mm fan on X motor, lawsey carriages with new better tolerance rods, flanged rear bearings, new NEMA 17 with leadscrew on Z-Axis, and e3d v6 with MK5.


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Yeah I'll do a little adjusting no big deal. I still think it's going to fix my ripple I get

OneMoreCast wrote:

It wont attach to wood bed. It was made for the SD printers with the metal beds...you can use my basic idea and tweak how it attaches, but as for direct fit if you have the old bed and not metal one, this wont be print and install

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I printed a set in PLA (better than nothing), and the 8mm rod holes are too small (easy to drill out), but the bearing holes are about one mm too large, so I'm going to have to tape them before inserting them.

Also on the SD4, the Y belt tensioners get in the way, so you need two of the short arms.

Can't wait for my current print to finish so I can install the stabilizer and stop the jitters!

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w_smith wrote:

I printed a set in PLA (better than nothing), and the 8mm rod holes are too small (easy to drill out), but the bearing holes are about one mm too large, so I'm going to have to tape them before inserting them.

Also on the SD4, the Y belt tensioners get in the way, so you need two of the short arms.

Can't wait for my current print to finish so I can install the stabilizer and stop the jitters!

Yeah the block holes are tiny totally forgot to make them bigger, will update file. Sorry. For the bearings I used ABS and its snug (prob because of shrinkage) its easier to build up a bearing than equally ream out so I figured a tad bigger is easier to deal w than smaller. Also if using ABS size is perfect. For the arm the rod sits right in crook of y tension block and bolt for pulley. This might be a problem due to printed parts by SDand slight variations but I have no issue w the arm. Mines an SD4 and no probs, post pic of your issue ill see whats up. Prob put up two short arms and one long as option in file. The reason I left them diff was more aesthetics, when doors closed the right side ride blocks and stuff is hidden by door. But ty for heads up, and results using PLA

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Also another reason mine peob works because im using lawsey carriage mk5 and ed3 so I need that extra space so both rods are as far from bed as possible so my print head/careiage doesnt hit...also design of carriage might be keeping me from running into issue you have. Let me know your setup, hotend, stock carriahes or not etc...I want this to be easy and universal. Thanks for feedback

"All your base are belong to us." SD4 with a RUMBA, supernight PS, 40mm fan on X motor, lawsey carriages with new better tolerance rods, flanged rear bearings, new NEMA 17 with leadscrew on Z-Axis, and e3d v6 with MK5.


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Maybe I've got bigger Y-belt tensioners?

It'd be great if you could post the individual parts so I can print two short arms without printing everything twice...

I'm switching to ABS, which will hopefully solve some of my issues...

Thanks!

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Mine are smaller...okay ill make two sets of arms one pair short one long snd split up blocks make rod hole slightly larger. If you want in meantime you can split them in Cura...click file itll auto openin it, right click select split object than right click items you dont want to print select delete repeat as necessary. Than go to file save model and voila. Just make sure when you add to RH the drop down tag is set to one on the model. It comes up unknown material if not.....I get this is drawn out, but way to print what you want until I get a chance to adjust and upload. Going to be bit at work now, sorry again (got caught up building my MendelMax yesterday)

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Okay split items up, blocks have bigger rod hole. Included set of short arms and long all seperate files. Hope this helps

"All your base are belong to us." SD4 with a RUMBA, supernight PS, 40mm fan on X motor, lawsey carriages with new better tolerance rods, flanged rear bearings, new NEMA 17 with leadscrew on Z-Axis, and e3d v6 with MK5.


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you've become quite the scholar and gentleman wink nice work and thanks for sharing

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jagowilson wrote:

you've become quite the scholar and gentleman wink nice work and thanks for sharing


Thanks Jago and no prob, doing what I can to give back...after taking so much and learning a ton, only right. Also building MendelMax as we speak...cant wait to see how this baby goes

"All your base are belong to us." SD4 with a RUMBA, supernight PS, 40mm fan on X motor, lawsey carriages with new better tolerance rods, flanged rear bearings, new NEMA 17 with leadscrew on Z-Axis, and e3d v6 with MK5.


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21 (edited by w_smith 2015-03-01 16:14:22)

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Mostly there!  I printed the parts in ABS overnight, and discovered that the right arm not only needs to be the short length, it needs to be upside down, so the sleeve doesn't run into the block at the lowest Z position.

I needed to wrap each bearing in 2 (should have been 2.5?) wraps of blue painter's tape to make them fit in the sleeves.  Fit was about the same in ABS and PLA, but that doesn't mean my machine is calibrated.

The (front of) the bed is now like a rock, can't wait to print something.  8*)

It turns out there are two stabilization effects here.  One is keeping the (front of the) frame from moving side to side (the obvious one).  The second effect is jamming something between the frame and the springs, which stabilizes the bed adjusting screws so they don't allow the bed to move in the X and Y axes.  Now to figure out a similar stabilizer for the rear of the bed, which still wobbles a bit...

FWIW:  The stabilizer takes 10-20 mm off the height of the build volume, so don't try to move the Z axis all the way down.

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Yeah it makes it like a rock I love it, I printed a super tall 3 thin waled box and it helped a ton in keeping bed from wiggling. Glad to see you found a way to make it work. All printers and configs and mods will be diff from person to person so what worked for me (as we now see) may not work for you. Enjoy it man, happy printing

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I have the e3d and lawsey extruder carriage so my height already is lower so the arm hitting block was never an issue since its so low without stabilizer...good to see ways arpund that for stock hot end users. Ill add that to notes on thingiverse post your build up there and any comments too so others can benefit from your find

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Oh super, great work. Have been meaning to do just this.
I'm making one of these as soon as I can, parts already lying around!! smile

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well done on the remake i like to see that you have taken the time and effort to recreate what i lost the files too