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Thanks guys! I'm sorry I haven't put up the instructions on thingiverse yet, I'm tied up with work and a school project at the moment and it's probably gonna take a good hour to type up my instructions. I am going to put my balloon powered canon school project next though

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27 (edited by ajwoot 2015-03-22 23:00:37)

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Hi looks like i found the right place to be.  So i've been having some terrible luck lately.

Attempting to pull failed print off heat bed.

http://i.imgur.com/ODuJQ2tm.jpg

With the print bed messed up i decided to clean my nozzle extensively.  Then proceeded to strip out the threads on the heating block.

http://i.imgur.com/XAS5SC3m.jpg

So I'm well on my way to proving that Murphy's Law is a force to be reckoned with, but I've managed to get my Heat bed replaced.

http://i.imgur.com/Gh7qYPfm.jpg

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28 (edited by ajwoot 2015-03-22 23:01:39)

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do you think using something like this might work as a temp to get the machine running and then print the larger .stl files on my own?

www.thingiverse.com/thing:489946/#files

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Hey ajwoot, you have the e3dv6 nozzle already, yes? printing out thingiverse(dot)com/thing:489946/#files and my stepperplatev2 should allow you to print with the e3d so you can print out the rest of my files. I busy printing parts for my school project, but if no one else can help you sooner, or an online service is too pricy for you, I can make those files monday afternoon and you need only pay for shipping to your house.

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Hey thanks for your help.  I bought the e3d v6 tonight and it should arrive next week some time.  When i'm up and running all i know is that i'm going to print every spare hardware part i can find just in case.

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Hey Tom! Have you had a moment to write up your instructions? I'd love to see how you did it. I've been dying to print with NinjaFlex

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^ Like he said.
I've just bought a DUO 2.0 and would love to replace one of my nozzles.  Since I am so new to this, I also need instructions.

Chalk up another waiting in eager anticipation

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BLAH! Okay, I put instructions on my thingiverse. You will see that I went from very detailed to a bit vague. Nevertheless, I  still believe you guys should have a good idea of what is happening. Here's where I need YOU guys to help me now. I'm horrid at explaining things, and the English language in general. I NEED you guys to go to my thingiverse and read all the instructions and tell me what I missed. Tell me what I need to expand upon and let me know if I'm overly technical. I'm basically attempting to upload 2 months of hard work into one short page and I know there are some things I missed. That being said, I cannot recommend you attempt to replace your stock e3d nozzle just yet till I get feedback from you guys. If you could do this for me, I would be really grateful. thecure, while I do not have access to a DUO 2.0, I know the 1.0 and 2.0 are damn similar. It would help me alot if you went over my entire thingiverse and let me know why this process won't work on the DUO and what I need to change to adapt it.

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Thanks so much! This is awesome!  It seems pretty self explanatory to me. I'd actually need to get the parts myself and try it before I could give any advice.

Now that you've been using the new nozzle for a little while, have you had any issues?

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Heh, that's what is so great with this all-metal hotend, very few problems. The only problems I have is with the PolyMax PLA, which is PLA with additives. I believe my problem is with not having a fan blowing on the PolyMax PLA while printing. Other than that, I've had no issues with the e3d on daVinci that weren't my fault (for example: I found out the reason my prints were coming weird the past two days because I forgot to change the nozzle diameter in repetier)

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36 (edited by ajwoot 2015-03-22 23:04:28)

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So i'm taking a small break to let my hot end cool down so i'll post while i'm thinking about it.  I have straight up southern engineered my da vinci to mount a e3d v6.  I only used one printed component to mount my new extruder. A modified Sam's Extruder mount http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:489946/#files and a soldering iron to modify my existing extruder motor mount.

http://imgur.com/a/Znt7k

http://i.imgur.com/YLHRUtXm.jpg

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Those of you thinking about picking up an E3D and located in the US, I'm a US distributor. You can use coupon code "reprap" for 5% off:

http://www.filastruder.com/products/all … -v6-hotend

38 (edited by thecure 2014-10-22 21:45:44)

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tforsythe51:

Yes, I will try this on my Davinci Duo, and document any changes.
It's the least I can do in payback for your generous contribution.

Can I just ask to get a parts list please?
I know I will need:
-e3dv6 print head
-bearings you noted on thingiverse page description
-idler assembly you linked

anything else??

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tforsythe51 wrote:

Okay  guys, V3 .stl files and pictures are up on thingiverse. I WILL post detailed instructions when I wake up, but I've been up for 24 hours straight and won't be able to correctly convey my thoughts. In the mean time, if any 3D printing pro's want to look over my work and give me some critique, that'd be very much appreciated. On another note, does anyone know how to change thermistor values using the Arduino IDE environment? I bought these thermistors: htt_p://smile.amazon.co_m/gp/product/B00GD471PO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 since my stock da vinci thermistor broke. I found the section in the configuration.h files where the thermistor table is, but I have no idea how to generate a new table despite a good 4 hours of research. I've been using these thermistors with the stock davinci table and I know  that is a horrible idea.

What firmware are you running on your modded Davinci?
What code was it you found the configuration file in?

I may be able to help. I know my way around software dev.

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elmoret wrote:

Those of you thinking about picking up an E3D and located in the US, I'm a US distributor. You can use coupon code "reprap" for 5% off:


I could of used this a few weeks ago. ^^

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Okay, I'm at work on break , so I may not be able to answer all your questions immediately . The cure, off the top of my head, you will need 4x lm8uu linear bearings, 1 623z bearing, an e3d hotend obviously(get the Bowden version if you need ptfe tubing, it's only $5 more. You need zip ties, LOCTITE Superglue, and all the screws and screw holders I used were from an old erector set. I printed my parts at 90% infill abs (except for the fan shroud and stepper cover, those were taulman bridge nylon) at 0.2mm layer and 40mm/s speed.) and I did manage to successfully alter my configuration.h file for the thermistors. My machine is running repetier 0.91. Go to the volvtivo forums for info on that. To the user that asked about changing his thermistor, what is your level of programming like? Know some C? Do you have arduino IDE installed? I'll try to get everyone else's questions answered after work, so keep em coming.

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OK, I ordered those parts (Bowden version).  Not sure if I needed that. but what the hell.
Does the fan shroud and stepper cover need to be nylon??  I suppose if so, it can print without these items for a short time since the E3D is required to print non-ABS filament.
Thanks for the printing settings detail.  Every little bit helps a newbie like me.

I'll probably stay away from the repetier firmware until someone makes it work with the Duo, or I can find some find to do myself.

43 (edited by tforsythe51 2014-10-23 07:39:42)

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Okay, I realized that I just uploaded V3 of the e3dhousing twice on thingiverse. Version 3.5V, the correct is now on thingiverse. This version has the built in squishers where I place the erector screw holder for the stepper cover.

thecure, you should absolutely be fine with just a standard abs fan shroud. the v5 of the e3d came shipped with a abs printed fan shroud I believe(v6 is injection molded). I just think nylon is good for the longhaul.

thcure, the davinci is pretty much a Due i think. I know my printerboard and the due share the same sam3x8e processor. Which reminds me to anyone looking to change davinci firmware. You need to download the samba drivers for the sam3x83.

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Alright, I'll print it off today, and eagerly await my new extruder in the mail.

Yes, the hardware is the same, but from what I've read noone has configured the 2nd extruder to work yet within Repetier.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

I'll follow your instructions, revise if necessary, and submit to you when complete.

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One other question:  I see from the pictures that your parts don't replace the entire extruder sled - correct me if I'm wrong.
Do you see any issues fitting your parts to my Duo - one extruder is directly next to the other?  i.e. do the E3d + your parts extend past the 'stock' envelope of space it occupied? If so, it may well encroach where I will leave the other stock extruder.

Thanks

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Hmm, I can't believe that fact didn't cross my mind. pm me what your schedule looks like tomorrow (Friday) so we can one on one chat and I'll make an duo compatible sled. Unless you know how to 3d model. And I dont think the firmware will be too hard to change. While it was going through it, there are options for dual extrusion and we'll be the people who unlocked the duo.

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pedro.dasilva wrote:

That's a great upgrade there, but how will you find out the table level, after removing the original unit with the probe on it ?

Auto calibration is super confusing and terribly inaccurate. I start the demo and as soon as it begins to print turn off the printer, move the nozzle over the three leveling screws and use a feeler Guage or I use a playing card to make adjustments.

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Really new here, and loving my Da Vinci for the most part except.....I'd like it to be slightly more accurate in the X and Y coordinates.
With the E3D, and a smaller nozzle (0.2mm or 0.1mm maybe?) would that be possible? Or would the inaccuracy of the stepper motors still be the limiting factor?

Also, and please bear in mind I haven't changed my Da Vinci over to Repetier, but I assume I'd need to use the Repetier firmware in order to take advantage of the smaller nozzle then as well?

I'm an electrical engineer, so making the changes (electrically and mechanically) wouldn't be difficult. I'm just curious how well it actually works overall.

Calibration is another interesting aspect that really doesn't seem to be covered. I felt that the calibration from XYZ wasn't TERRIBLE (once it was used in conjunction with an online calculator), but it definitely had some room for improvement. I had many issues getting the contact points to 'see' each other to register properly. Cleaning off the contact on the print head improved it's accuracy greatly and gave me a good calibration rather quickly.

Thoughts? What about getting one in the US? Is there any place that you can purchase one online here in the US?

Thanks, and hopefully I'm not too much of annoyance asking these questions!

49 (edited by ajwoot 2014-10-29 00:43:38)

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Firstly we all found our ways here to ask questions.  To mod the hardware you would defiantly need to flash the firmware to repetier, fortunately it is very easy.  Here is a direct link for the .91 repetier firmware for da vinci 1.0

https://github.com/bgm370/dav10/archive/master.zip


It's probably best to have all of that downgraded to the earliest version xyz released.  If you have the newest version firmware / software you'll have to use the XYZdowngrader made by The Champion of modding xyz fr333n3rgy.

http://www.wctek.com/shop/

http://www.wctek.com/shop/files/XYZDowngrader.zip

I haven't used the xyzdowngrader so i'm not sure if it automatically puts the original version of firmware on your machine so here is a link to a repository of the different version firmware / software for xyz.

http://voltivo.com/forum/davinci-softwa … repository

Once you have repetier firmware / host installed that opens your printer up to pretty much anything you want to try.  You can adjust pretty much any setting on your 3d printer.  I'll throw in some links to get you going setting up repetier host for the da vinci.  Please donate to them to keep them running and providing us with excellent software / firmware.

http://www.repetier.com/download-now/

The E3dv6 will open your printer up to the world.  You will be able to print with pretty much any filament you throw at it.    Elmoret is your man for a supplier he is smart, a developer of the filastruder and is very active in this community.

http://www.filastruder.com/products/all … -v6-hotend

You can use coupon code "reprap" for 5% off:

On a different note to help speed up the whole process of print-bed calibration lower the z-axis to .40 (if you are on XYZ software start a print and as soon as it starts turn the printer off and manually move the extruder when it cools down) and adjust the bed where a business card or piece of paper can slide between the printer and extruder. My method is to move the extruder to the back two corners first and get that leveled out and calibrated then i move the extruder to the front of the printer in the middle of the bed and adjust as needed. That is the easiest way to level your bed whether you are using XYZ software of anything else.

Anyways good luck and I hope this helped.

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Thanks a bunch! I've really been thinking about this.

My only question that is left over is how did you attach the e3D to your assembly? It looks like there are some 3D printed parts to do that.....did you print those or did they come with it?

Just wondering.....outside of that, probably the end of next month (just bought this, need to wait a bit to spend more money on it) I'll get around to buying it.

Thanks again! It was a great and very helpful response!