126 (edited by AZERATE 2014-09-02 14:19:18)

Re: RUMBA board- how to do complete setup, including firmware and wiring?

http://vimeo.com/104959535
Here is a video to help you understand the motor issue.
I know it can't be overheating because I will only have it turned on for less than a minute before I shut it back down.
I have attempted to tune the VREFs, but the beeping continues and makes me worried to run it.
I have the E3D fan running off an external power supply hooked to all my other fans, so I know that is fine. But it is the 40mm fan on the rear of the E motor.

Thank you for walking me through this. When you say ground for the board, you mean the - terminal that powers the board? Forgive me for my lack of electrical knowledge wink

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127 (edited by grob 2014-09-03 01:06:47)

Re: RUMBA board- how to do complete setup, including firmware and wiring?

VREF is measured relative to board signal ground, yes - is connected to negative power supply input. There should be plenty of options to connect to on the board, e.g. most of the headers have a gnd pin too. Anything connected to one of these doohickeys on the schematic, or labelled as 'GND':
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Yes, hook your negative probe onto the ground input for the board.  Positive probe goes on the rim of the trim pot.  My best guess for your beeping issues is still the VREFs, get those tuned to where they need to be and it will probably go away.  Try to tune it to the voltages that I posted for the drivers you have.  If it still makes slight noises, that is probably okay.  You must fine a "good enough" balance between noise, temperature, and enough power to avoid skipping.  Getting all 3 of those perfect is unlikely but you should be able to get close.

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From this picture, am I understanding this  right that you have to power the HB separately?

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130 (edited by wardjr 2014-12-30 23:43:22)

Re: RUMBA board- how to do complete setup, including firmware and wiring?

You can power it separately (preferred) or jump from Main PWR to HB PWR.
It just depends on your setup.  I have set them up every way so if you need help let me know.

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It looks like that I have the  same PSU pictured  here.What am I missing? I see he has the main power jumpered to the remaining 2 but no wires leaving there but main power. That' s where I am confused me.

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That's actually a picture of my PSU big_smile
Do you have a supernight PSU?

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Sorry sounds like you do have a Supernight PSU.

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Because the 3 banks aren't internally connected I jumped them all together to get 360 watts.
If your setup is what I am thinking you will want to connect MAIN PWR to one bank (120 watts) which is plenty to run the motors and hot end.  Then you will want to connect the remaining 2 banks (jumpered together like above photo) to the HB PWR terminals.  This setup will give you 240 watts dedicated to the bed heater only.  Of course this means you will have another set of power wires going to your board. 
Does that make sense?

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Your PSU looks just like mine down to the led, adjust pot and  even the numbered resistors. I  didn't know that the 3  + or 3
- were not connected internally, I assumed them to be common.I don't have my board yet but hope to have it in a few days.
thanks again for the info.

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I made the same assumption and they actually test as if they are connected.  However, the current capability just isn't there unless jumped.

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I saw this on Amazon , someone asked , Is this product 3 10A rails or one 30A rail with 3 screw terminals?
A:  one 30a with 3 screw terminals. Still confused.

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satman49 wrote:

I saw this on Amazon , someone asked , Is this product 3 10A rails or one 30A rail with 3 screw terminals?
A:  one 30a with 3 screw terminals. Still confused.

Based on my testing the answer given is correct, sort of.  I am guessing the traces on the circuit board that tie them together are simply too small to deliver the full current.  I haven't had one apart to verify this but can say connecting them together eliminated any and all signs of low current (LED flicker & fan speed changes).  Wire it up any way you want if connected to just one terminal doesn't deliver, add the jumpers.  You won't hurt anything.

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139 (edited by satman49 2015-01-05 00:22:08)

Re: RUMBA board- how to do complete setup, including firmware and wiring?

I got another question. If I wire the main power and heatbed seperately , will the HB bed be "always on" or  will I still be able to control it in RH? Also from the picture of your PSU ,I see only one set of wires leaving it.What am missing ?

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Same control as before just a designated circuit for a separate PSU for the bed heater.

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I recieved my Rumba today.There are a couple of issues with it so far.The main thing that I noticed is that the stock sd 3 stepper connectors won't fit. Just wondering how others who have this board handled that. Did you just splice the old wires to the ones furnished or is there a better way?Also there is an extra 12v header by the fan connector, it's not even shown on the RRD website or the Rumba wiki.

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satman49 wrote:

I recieved my Rumba today.There are a couple of issues with it so far.The main thing that I noticed is that the stock sd 3 stepper connectors won't fit. Just wondering how others who have this board handled that. Did you just splice the old wires to the ones furnished or is there a better way?Also there is an extra 12v header by the fan connector, it's not even shown on the RRD website or the Rumba wiki.

You can either make new connectors or just cut the wires and use the screw terminals.
The extra header is just that "extra" so us it for what ever you want.

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Well, I guess I may have  fried my board. When I first hooked it up, it installed  the drivers ok and was able to flash the firmware.But now I lost the comp port. Odd tho when I plug in the usb xp makes the found new hardware sound but it doesn't appear in device manager as before. The TX/rx leds now stay on now not flickering as before.I tried the troubling shooting suggestion on the Rumba wiki but no go so far. Has anybody else had this issue ?

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satman49 wrote:

Well, I guess I may have  fried my board. When I first hooked it up, it installed  the drivers ok and was able to flash the firmware.But now I lost the comp port. Odd tho when I plug in the usb xp makes the found new hardware sound but it doesn't appear in device manager as before. The TX/rx leds now stay on now not flickering as before.I tried the troubling shooting suggestion on the Rumba wiki but no go so far. Has anybody else had this issue ?

It is getting late but rest assured your board is fine smile  I will be happy to help you in the AM.

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ok thanks

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Well for now I'd try reinstalling rumba USB driver, and maybe try a different USB port. It does sound like a driver issue more than a board-fry issue! smile

Also make sure nothing that might steal the com port is running (e.g. Repetier).

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+1 to grob's suggestions
When your ready get me a good photo of your board as you have it now.  I don't need to be able to read the printing I just want to see  what you have plugged in and where.
I would also like to know what you did that makes you think you did something to fry the board?

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I did reinstall the drivers and tried several usb ports and cables, same result. Also disconnected everything but main power and usb. I had most of the connections hooked up when this happened so I may have shorted something. Could have hooked it up wrong , I really can't show you now.It's not a usb issue as my old sang board is still recognized. Back to the drawing board.

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I doubt you burned up the rumba. I've abused it so badly and it still works. Have you tried it on a different PC? Did you adjust any of the jumpers?

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That's an idea , I'll try another pc  thanks. I did set  the jumper to standalone.

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