326 (edited by Andrejs 2015-06-01 21:20:08)

Re: Filastruder Documentation and CAD/STL files

Hi everyone,

I just assembled  my filastruder kit, wired it, but probably i did something wrong as motor is not starting, fan doesn`t start as well, but atleast shakes once when i turn on the switch. Everything else seems to be ok. Any clues on my problem?

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added picture of my incompetent wiring

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Sounds like you have a short circuit somewhere, and are overloading the power supply and its shutting down. It also seems as though you don't have a wire connected for the input negative on the stall protection board.

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Success!!!

It turned out that in 1.6 instuctions there is one step missed in description where you have to connect PIN10 on controller to IN- on stall protection. I found it out by checking wiring diagram. But it was still not working. In the end I reversed polarity of power supply and everything worked! So the brown wire is for + and the blue for - and if you connect it wrong way then motor and fan will not start!

Now back to cleaning nipple with sacraficial abs smile

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I have been on the fence about getting a Filastruder for a couple of weeks. Read this entire thread and some other much shorter ones, just to be better informed. Yesterday I found a almost new one (1/2 pound of material run through it) available on EBay. A discount and no lead time. Now I am a Filastruder owner!
Now looking into the winder possibilities...

FFCP using copper buildplates.

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Hi Tim,
I'd like to see your build video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ek03ugI … e=youtu.be but you should add me since it is private.
Thank you in advance!

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As noted on the link, that video is for v1.0 kits only. Please use the PDF instructions to assemble your kit.

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Hi,

I registered to request access to the build video. I understand it is for version 1.0, but I would appreciate a visual aid before I finish the build up. Especially for the wiring part.

Thanks.

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That build video will not be made public. It also doesn't contain anything about wiring, wiring doesn't show up well on video since you can have wires crossing under each other etc. Please use the wiring diagram provided in the PDF, this is the professional and correct way to convey wiring instructions. If you have a question, I'm happy to answer it.

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So I am brand new to all things electrical. First question my cord ended up colored Red and Yellow. I don't have a meter to tell me which is which. am I safe to say Red is +? (see photo)

Next, for extending the cords, do I just twist together and use some of the heat shrink tubing?

Also, I see the metal things (see picture) When and how do I use them, or if they have a specific name I can look them up.

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jwatt85 wrote:

Also, I see the metal things (see picture) When and how do I use them, or if they have a specific name I can look them up.

They are call crimp ferrules. They are used to splice wires. When splicing, you can choose to solder, crimp using the ferrules, or use alternate connectors. heatshrink is not a solid bond to be used in place of a solder/crimp splicing, it is used to make sure the wires don't touch and short, so slide the heatshrink on before you make the splice.
The spade plug (little red guy) in your second pic will be used to connect to the motor. There are small pegs on your motor on which they will slide on.

I would assume the red is indeed positive, but you really should have a meter for instances like this. They only run about $20 at Home Depot

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I am thinking of using a female plug for connecting the Filastruder to the provided power supply.  See:http://soliforum.com/i/?qe6woap.jpg.  I have the following questions:

1. Do you think this is a bad idea?
2.  The plug uses 22 gauge wire, the power supply is rated at 6 amps for 12 volts,  I believe this is adequate.  Is it?
3.  I am going to use 16 gauge wire for the extension that the power supply wire was to be used for is this adequate?

Thanks!

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22awg is pretty thin - 6 amps is just about the maximum there in chassis wiring. I would rate it as barely adequate for 6 amps, though the Filastruder draws closer to 5 amps.

16ga is fine anywhere.

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So I think I've made an error somewhere. I turn on the temp and get it up to proper temp.  I turn on the motor and it extrude for about 1-3 mins and then stops. About the same amount of time goes by and it turns back on. What should I do?

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When you say "Install stall protection board using provided hardware: M3 screws in large mechanical bag" do you mean the screws that are too short, and using the mounting holes that do not line up properly? 'Cause that doesn't work.

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Unless the screws got shorter (or the casting for the gearbox slightly longer) the provided screws do work. The holes line up like the photo in the instructions, just leave the standoffs on the stall protection board slightly loose until the screws that go through the gearbox are in the standoffs.

If you end up needing some longer screws, I'm happy to reimburse.

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dmartin wrote:

When you say "Install stall protection board using provided hardware: M3 screws in large mechanical bag" do you mean the screws that are too short, and using the mounting holes that do not line up properly? 'Cause that doesn't work.

I just assembled my kit yesterday and the screws are just barely long enough, but they definitely are slightly misaligned. If you don't tighten the nuts down all the way it works a little better, but it is definitely an awkward fit and likely to fall off at the slightest bump

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I am assembling a newly purchased filastruder (Serial number 2721), and have a few questions:
In the instructions manually (downloaded from the first post) there come 2 different PDFs: Instructions version 2.0c and 2.0d.
Is there a difference between the two, and which should I use?
It states "Use some of the cable you just cut off to extend both the heater wires and the extruder fan’s wires, 8 inches each. Use the included ferrules and heatshrink for this."
There was no heatshrink in the kit (however I have some) but also the motor wire seems to be long enough? Is this still necessary or are those instructions outdated?
I will probably add more questions later as I keep working - should I make a new post in this forum, make a new forum post, or edit this post?

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You could use either set of instructions, but 2.0d is more up to date and has better explanations for a few things.

The last few v2.0 kits got longer heater and fan wires, so you can skip that bit.

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Unless I am going mad but half the build instructions are missing from the pdf. I have the latest serial and have downloaded all 2.1 revisions and there is no finish to the build.

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Could it be or are the documentation for filastruder 2.0 for shit?
Sry for that but i cant assemble that thing with that kind of documentation. Also the YouTube videos are shit.

Documentation for Assembling stops after electronic installation. wtf?!?!? Why?

Videos for assembling:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHft4c4SxWQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdxvzM4gcDo&t=611s

Sry but as consumer i am really pissed of!

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What problem are you having with the documentation? If you have specific suggestions, I'm happy to implement them!

There are no official YouTube videos, the official documentation is the PDF linked in this thread.

The documentation stops after the electrical section because by that point everything is assembled.

347 (edited by torri 2017-11-13 16:21:49)

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Hi everybody!

I have recently purchased a Filastruder and, as I can see in the updates at the first page of this thread, my auger is slighty longer than previous models, is that right?
So in my case the distance shaft collar-end of auger is longer than 82mm and feed screws is more than 10mm out of the barrel.
How I could fix that problem? (is it really a problem??)

Other thing I would need is how's the white bracket fit in the PID and the housing, because the picture in the intructions manual shows (I think) a different bracket (mine has screws and is wider).

Thanks in advance for your help

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Replied to your email, the only item here that wasn't in the email is the PID controller's bracket. It is the same bracket as is in the picture, but as noted in the instructions it is necessary to cut or file off the mounting tabs.

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Re: Filastruder Documentation and CAD/STL files

Hello,

I did receive my Filastrudeur but before assembling, I need to know if the duct (plumbing pipe) needs cleaning and if so, how? I have the impression that the black product comes off by friction.

I also received a filter and 2 clips. Should they be installed in the sleeve in front of the head or is it a replacement filter?

Thank you

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You can clean the barrel if you like, but the initial purge will clean it also.

The filter mounts in the nozzle. One spare clip and one spare filter are included.