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Topic: How Would I go About Installing A Silicon Heater Pad On My Ultimaker 2

Hey Soliforum,

Back in the day when I had my SD2, I remember you guys doing upgrades to silicon heater pads. Would anyone here be able to guide me in the right direction as to what heater to buy, what additional electrionics I will need, and what firmware changes I would need to make.

Thanks!

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Re: How Would I go About Installing A Silicon Heater Pad On My Ultimaker 2

What's the dimensions of the bed?

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Re: How Would I go About Installing A Silicon Heater Pad On My Ultimaker 2

223mm x 223mm

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Re: How Would I go About Installing A Silicon Heater Pad On My Ultimaker 2

Are you thinking AC or sticking with DC?  Aluminum plate with glass on top or???

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Re: How Would I go About Installing A Silicon Heater Pad On My Ultimaker 2

AC will give me fast heat up times, but I need an SSR right? If DC is cheaper, and gives similar performance I'd rather go with that. What would you recommend?

For the stock UM2 build plate it is a PCB heater on the bottom, an alumium plate on top, and then glass. I also have a layer of PEI attached to the glass for better ABS adhesion.
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Re: How Would I go About Installing A Silicon Heater Pad On My Ultimaker 2

I stay away from AC when possible just for safety. If something shorts it could kill you or others. DC while still possible but far less likely. It's your choice but yes for AC you would need an SSR.

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Re: How Would I go About Installing A Silicon Heater Pad On My Ultimaker 2

AC will be more and there's the above mentioned safety concerns.  But you asked my preference and I like fast heat up times.  For that it comes down to wattage and DC can't beat AC in that area.  The Printit heater is amazingly fast and evenly distributed.  I'd say if you could stick one to aluminum you'd be happy with it even though it wouldn't reach all the way to the edges.
If you want to order one and try it I'd be happy to take it back should it not meet your needs.

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Re: How Would I go About Installing A Silicon Heater Pad On My Ultimaker 2

I'm interested, link? Is this one: https://www.printitindustries.com/produ … -8-heatbed

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Re: How Would I go About Installing A Silicon Heater Pad On My Ultimaker 2

Yep, that's the one.
On my SD3 with the AC bed heater I had roughly $110 into components.  It gets up to 105 in less than a minute and is a 500w heater.  It's very fast but it also has definite hot spots that can negatively impact prints.  I also have several Hale heaters and although they take 3-5 minutes to heat up the distribution is so even that I've found 90 degrees for ABS is actually better.  In your setup I suspect heat up times will be increased due to the additional mass.  So this will be an interesting test and I look forward to seeing your results.

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Re: How Would I go About Installing A Silicon Heater Pad On My Ultimaker 2

What is the Max temp for the Plate? Do I need an external PSU?

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Re: How Would I go About Installing A Silicon Heater Pad On My Ultimaker 2

140c max is recommended. No external PSU needed.

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Re: How Would I go About Installing A Silicon Heater Pad On My Ultimaker 2

I can vouch for the Hale heat beds - have 2 of them installed on my SD4s - LOVE them!

Even on #1, that has 1/4" thick aluminum plate, plus a mirror tile on top of that, takes less than 10 minutes to heat to 90C (I have also found that the lower temp works quite well)

you wont regret it.

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Re: How Would I go About Installing A Silicon Heater Pad On My Ultimaker 2

I second the Hale heater. I put one on my delta and if i dont heat it up slowly itll shatter my glass bed. Done it twice now

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