26 (edited by j.t.guthrie 2016-12-08 00:32:34)

Re: Solidoodle 1.30

Ok, took a bit of reinstalling software & drivers, but it's now connecting to the printer.

Next question is:  How long is it supposed to take the extruder to get up to temperature?  Bed hit recommended temperature in roughly an hour.  The extruder  has not gotten about 27.4 degrees.  Recommended temperature in Repieter is 245 degrees (going to use ABS to start.)

I'm still not able to get the printer to start a print job.  When I click Start Print at the top it switches screens to the manual control tab and says print job finished.  Ideas?

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it should take minutes to reach temp.
make sure your power supply is set fro 110 assuming you are in the usa.
check that one first sound like a power issue.
check all your connections.
check your thermisistor

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Got it to where everything (including extruder) was heating up.

It gets up to roughly 214 Degrees when this error pops up and shuts down the heaters.
Have you guys come across this error before?

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The error message is telling you the exact problem, MAX TEMP.
On an SD with a stock hotend it reads cold by 15-20 degrees due to the location of the thermistor.  Because of this SD set the Max Temp in the firmware low to prevent damage to the hot end.  I would recommend doing a PID auto tune to ensure it isn't over shooting during heat up.  Then set your temp a little lower like 210 to help prevent it from reaching max temp.  There are several mods that will allow higher temps for more exotic filament.

PID http://www.soliwiki.com/PID_tuning

The entire calibration section is a must read http://www.soliwiki.com/#Calibrations

When you're ready for the best hot end available https://www.printitindustries.com/colle … -assembled

For when you get tired of waiting an hour for your bed heater.  https://www.printitindustries.com/colle … -8-heatbed

When your PSU finally fails, and it will wink  https://www.printitindustries.com/produ … wer-supply

Spend some time in the Hacks and Mods section if you really want to make your SD print well.  Ask lots of questions as there are many of us that have been in your position.  Make it fun and learn a lot along the way.  There are many modifications that cost little to nothing that can really improve your printer.

Hope that helps and as always, Happy Printing!

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on my SD4's - both were roughly 45 degrees off with the stock hotends. I was running PLA in the 160-165C range, and ABS in the 190-195C range.

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Knowing the temp reading range is that far off is good to know.  I'll get it calibrated first & see how my first print job goes.

WardJr:  Thanks for the links.  Those will be very necessary & extremely helpful as I figure things out & really get into printing. 

What program would you guys recommend for making my own stl files?  What I want to do is be able to scan a 2D picture into my computer (a wing rib or fuselage former,) import it into a program, give it some depth, and print it out.

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I use SolidWorks and can say it isn't great for what you are asking.  I have done what you've described with Sketchup but the scale is hard to nail perfectly.  I am sure others will have some recommendations.

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wardjr wrote:

I use SolidWorks and can say it isn't great for what you are asking.  I have done what you've described with Sketchup but the scale is hard to nail perfectly.  I am sure others will have some recommendations.


Perfect.  I'll start with those two and see where it takes me.

Back to the printer itself.  I've gotten it so where the printer starts doing it's thing.  The issue I'm having now is the filament is not sticking to the bed.  Anybody else had this issue before?

Also, this is more an observation than anything else, I'm using black filament and when it comes out the extruder it's magically white.  Is this normal?  filament is ABS.

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Sounds like there is some left over white filament in the hotend, should run itself out if you manually extrude until you see black.

ABS can be a little tricky to get it to stick. Hairspray, purple glue stick, or abs slurry seem to be the preferred methods for adhesion.  I've had good luck with hairspray(Aquanet) and glue stick.

Bed temps for ABS need to be higher than PLA, usually around 90-110C.

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widespreaddeadhead wrote:

Sounds like there is some left over white filament in the hotend, should run itself out if you manually extrude until you see black.

ABS can be a little tricky to get it to stick. Hairspray, purple glue stick, or abs slurry seem to be the preferred methods for adhesion.  I've had good luck with hairspray(Aquanet) and glue stick.

Bed temps for ABS need to be higher than PLA, usually around 90-110C.


I'll try the hairspray.  bed temp is around 100 according to Repieter.  Thanks!

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So after a lot of playing around with it what I'm noticing is the gears aren't threading the filament through.  I try to manually feed in in the program and hear the gear spinning.  When I look at the area one side is spinning but the filament isn't being threaded into the extruder.  I've tried varied degrees of tightness on the gear arm without any luck.  Did I not set something up correctly?

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What program would you guys recommend for making my own stl files?  What I want to do is be able to scan a 2D picture into my computer (a wing rib or fuselage former,) import it into a program, give it some depth, and print it out.

123Ddesign  is free download from Autodesk. Free to use for non commercial use . IIRC  about $100 a year for a full licence.
this program will take a 2d svg file and make a 3d stl. IMHO the place to start.

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j.t.guthrie wrote:

So after a lot of playing around with it what I'm noticing is the gears aren't threading the filament through.  I try to manually feed in in the program and hear the gear spinning.  When I look at the area one side is spinning but the filament isn't being threaded into the extruder.  I've tried varied degrees of tightness on the gear arm without any luck.  Did I not set something up correctly?

Clean the teeth on the drive gear and blow all shavings from the area.  Stripping the filament is commonly caused by too low of temperature and too little tension on the tension arm.  You want that spring tight.  Once things are clean and your hot end as hot as you can get it, things should move fine.  If not than we look into possible clogs of the hot end or other obvious issues.  As for sticking to the bed hairspray on a cheap piece of glass will get you the best results.  A picture of your first layer will tell a lot.

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wardjr wrote:
j.t.guthrie wrote:

So after a lot of playing around with it what I'm noticing is the gears aren't threading the filament through.  I try to manually feed in in the program and hear the gear spinning.  When I look at the area one side is spinning but the filament isn't being threaded into the extruder.  I've tried varied degrees of tightness on the gear arm without any luck.  Did I not set something up correctly?

Clean the teeth on the drive gear and blow all shavings from the area.  Stripping the filament is commonly caused by too low of temperature and too little tension on the tension arm.  You want that spring tight.  Once things are clean and your hot end as hot as you can get it, things should move fine.  If not than we look into possible clogs of the hot end or other obvious issues.  As for sticking to the bed hairspray on a cheap piece of glass will get you the best results.  A picture of your first layer will tell a lot.


From the looks of it the head is partially plugged.  I changed the filament to PLA two days ago to be able to test printer without having to deal with high temperatures required by ABS.  At that time it swapped out just fine.  Now the machine won't let go of the PLA filament so I can give the gear a good cleaning.  I have removed the screw/spring combo completely & opened up the tension arm.  even with extruder up to temp & tension arm fully open the filament won't come out.  Also can't manually feed filament through (via minor force) when using the manual feed button in Repieter.  Have you guys experienced this?

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Heat up to ABS temp and yank out the PLA by hand.  This should clear it out.

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Correct retraction with PLA is very important. Since PLA takes longer to cool, and its molten state is much more gooey than ABS, it can be more prone to clogging. Temps, speeds, and retraction are all important here.

If you are still using the stock Solidoodle hotend, I highly recommend ditching that sucker ASAP. As it begins clogging with PLA, it will clog more often as charred residue stick to the walls and eventually make it impossible to print a simple ribbon. If you have not already checked out an E3D, you may want to start looking now.
https://www.printitindustries.com/collections/e3d-1

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AZERATE wrote:

Correct retraction with PLA is very important. Since PLA takes longer to cool, and its molten state is much more gooey than ABS, it can be more prone to clogging. Temps, speeds, and retraction are all important here.

If you are still using the stock Solidoodle hotend, I highly recommend ditching that sucker ASAP. As it begins clogging with PLA, it will clog more often as charred residue stick to the walls and eventually make it impossible to print a simple ribbon. If you have not already checked out an E3D, you may want to start looking now.
https://www.printitindustries.com/collections/e3d-1


My Solidoodle is 100% stock, so I'll look into buying a higher end hotend.  On that site you provided it showed several E3D products.  Should I stick with strictly the hotend or go for a complete assembly?

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Just to clarify, the link given is a company myself and wardjr co-founded with two other Soliforum users.

We offer the hotends fully assembled if the user doesn't have the time or isn't confident enough to assemble. You can read the assembly instructions here and make whatever decision would work best for you.
Please keep in mind that you will need a new mount for the hotend. If you cannot print this, you can pruchase one from us here.
Also, you must perform a firmware upgrade. After you're all done, you will wonder how you ever lived without it.

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