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scobo wrote:

Ok, I'm with you now. I wasn't clear on what you meant by "gaps and holes".
Carl's right, bed levelling won't cause that but a poorly levelled bed will cause warping especially with larger prints and square or rectangular shapes.

It's my fault, translating words from Spanish to English isn't easy sometimes, you have an Spanish word in mind and four or five possible translations, and maybe only one is the correct one in the specific context or site. Thanks, scobo.

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No worries buddy.
Your English is way bettter than my Spanish, that's for sure !  smile

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carl_m1968 wrote:

It is a known issue that the beds on these machines are bowed.. Even if you level the four corners the middle may still be higher or lower than the sides. Try putting the head and paper in the middle during the level steps and see what it looks like. Sometimes you have to try and reach a compromise.

That did the trick, tried to level acc. to your method but still it didn't seem to work Reading this I tried the center of the bed and there I was way of. So finding the compromise did work. Thanks! Great you guys share your experience.

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Just dropping another penny for this. I followed this guide and saved hours of recalibrating! Print looks great! Thanks Carl for the great tip!

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Xandman wrote:

Just dropping another penny for this. I followed this guide and saved hours of recalibrating! Print looks great! Thanks Carl for the great tip!


No Problem, glad it helps. Beats the rocket science needed for the built in method.

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Thanks very much for this tutorial, I had a series of issues with the davinci 1.0a not printing very well.

Upon looking online I found it was the "factory levelled/calibrated bed" the automatic One give me err err err Which annoyed me!

I then proceeded to get instructions On how I can manually level the bed.
Ordinarily I like to watch YouTube bids so I can see exactly how others Do it, however none seem to exist.

I followed your guide and I'm now one happy 3der.
I'm tempted to post a YouTube vid with all my findings.

I have never had a 3d printer Before now but I am an IT guy/nerd/geek so this is becoming a fantastic learning curve.

Many thanks.

107 (edited by AndyTake2 2015-10-24 11:50:44)

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I have a daVinci AiO.
Tried to print a couple of things - test was ok, a small part was ok, but a larger piece was a mess, with everything at the front being a pile of spaghetti.

Suspected the alignment front to back (i.e. the Y axis) was off, so followed the instructions here, and it showed that I was right - the front was way lower than the rest.
Just made some adjustments and am waiting for the next print to get under way so I can see how it worked.


........edit

an hour later and the print is fine.
all the issues which plagued the first run have gone.
Thanks for the info.

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Just unpacked my AiO today and immediately used this paper calibration technique. The demo piece came out beautifully. Can't wait to start using it in earnest. Thanks!

New owner of a Da Vinci 1.0 AiO; plan on using it mostly to make parts for lightsabers.

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I preform this and feel Ive properly adjusted the back left, back right and front center adjust knobs as per the directions in this thread.
My question is am I supposed to be able to move the nozzle and paper anywhere on the build plate with the same resistance? Because although points 1, 2 and 3 have equal pressure I feel as though the remaining front corners have different levels of tension. Especially the front right corner feels as though it has the tightest gap and I find it difficult to slide the paper around and when I start my prints during the printing of the purge line the extruder makes a ticking noise as if there isn't enough space for the filament to flow freely. Loosening the knobs in order to free up this corner results in the original corners now feeling too loose. Am
I doing something wrong?

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Unless you're printing something really big that covers 75%+ of the build plate, I wouldn't worry too much about the extreme corners.
Just focus on getting the centre region of the bed level as that's where the majority of your prints will be positioned.
In any case, if you were to print something that big, it's more than likely to warp no matter how well you level when using ABS.
For that reason, I use PLA for larger prints which doesn't require such precise levelling.

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this recently have been very frustrating for me to say at the least. When I first got the DaVinci 1.0 printer - I didn't have to calibrate. I printed out some good prints then just recently went back. I noticed the enclosure case for my project I"m working on was messing up constantly. I looked over Youtube tutorials and such - got a dial indicator but even find that one hard. I bough the amazon app Davinci Calibrator and it works okay but when I run a print either the nozzle too close to the print bed. Just now I used the dial indicator and it's always been 0 - back left; 0 top left; 95 on top right and 0 on back right. I printed a quick smiley face magnet case for the fridge and the nozzle was too close to the print bed. I had to loosen some knobs to get the grinding to stop. It's printing now without grinding on anything. I'll try the paper trick possibly tomorrow because as for now I'm taking a break of re calibrating.

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I posted this on another forum, but figured it would be useful here as well.

If you have issues calibrating the Da Vinci 1.0 Pro bed, make sure that the sensor next to the extruder nozzle is coming into contact with each of the corner brackets holding down the bed. On my printer that I just had delivered yesterday, this was occurring on 3 out of the 4 corners...but on the front right corner, the sensor completely missed the bracket and was touching the bed itself. The end result was that "Calibrate fail" would be displayed, but it did not give me the option to "Adjust uneven bed" as shown in the XYZ Youtube videos. I worked around this by temporarily taping a metal washer to the bed that was the same height as the bracket and placed it in the same spot where the sensor is lowered. When I reran the calibration, then I was prompted to adjust the uneven bed. Hopefully this saves someone wasted time esp. a newbie like me, and is fixed in a firmware update.

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JTKD wrote:

I posted this on another forum, but figured it would be useful here as well.

If you have issues calibrating the Da Vinci 1.0 Pro bed, make sure that the sensor next to the extruder nozzle is coming into contact with each of the corner brackets holding down the bed. On my printer that I just had delivered yesterday, this was occurring on 3 out of the 4 corners...but on the front right corner, the sensor completely missed the bracket and was touching the bed itself. The end result was that "Calibrate fail" would be displayed, but it did not give me the option to "Adjust uneven bed" as shown in the XYZ Youtube videos. I worked around this by temporarily taping a metal washer to the bed that was the same height as the bracket and placed it in the same spot where the sensor is lowered. When I reran the calibration, then I was prompted to adjust the uneven bed. Hopefully this saves someone wasted time esp. a newbie like me, and is fixed in a firmware update.


The thing to keep in mind and the main reason for me creating this guide is that the values that XYZ gets you to set in the 250 range represents .25mm and that is too high..

You will not get good adhesion if you are printing at .3mm.. The ideal height should be no more than half of your desired print layer thickness. It is not a number that is constant but a number that needs to change depending on your desired layer thickness.

For example if you ever wanted to go down to .1mm on the layer then you see that .25 is actually thicker so you would need to actually go down to .05 on thew first layer.. A set of feeler gauges is really preferred as then  you have an assortment of thicknesses for different layer heights.

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worked like a champ.  ever in tampa bay area I owe u a beer.  healy

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Amazing. Saved countless hours of headache. The only trick part was accounting for the unevenness of the bed - the middle has a slight bulge. So as mentioned, I had to compromise. But dude...very happy to be printing away! smile

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Tried the paper method on each corner and tried it in thee middle sections. Tried cleaning the head again too. 10 attempts at leveling bed.

Still getting nothing, nothing is coming out of tip on initial pass or when printing object. It goes though the motions but nothing is happening.


Maddening would be an understatement...

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lubbinv wrote:

Tried the paper method on each corner and tried it in thee middle sections. Tried cleaning the head again too. 10 attempts at leveling bed.

Still getting nothing, nothing is coming out of tip on initial pass or when printing object. It goes though the motions but nothing is happening.


Maddening would be an understatement...

Is this a new problem, or has it never printed?

Have you cleaned the head?

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Update- The filament wasn't extruding enough. Held pressure on it to take hold and it is now working!!!

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Just wanted to add my thanks to this thread, we are a school who has recently purchased a davinci and we eagerly unpacked it last night, failed the auto calibration but tried a print anyway, it went horribly wrong and i have what has been described by one of our teachers as "the droppings of an epileptic spider" on my desk.

After following this simple guide on how to level the bed, i reran the same test and i am now sat happily with my demo heart cooling off on the bed.

Thanks again, myself and the school are looking forward to many years of awesome project (and maybe some personal wink)  3d printing!

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Question smile

Do you have blue tape on while performing this?

I assume this would skew the result for anyone using the blue tape / glue method?

I assume I should be calibrating with this on?

Thank you

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VampireV wrote:

Question smile

Do you have blue tape on while performing this?

I assume this would skew the result for anyone using the blue tape / glue method?

I assume I should be calibrating with this on?

Thank you

You should calibrate as you would print. That also means both the bed and hot end should be hot to account for expansion.

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Anycubic 4MAX best $225 ever invested.
Voxelabs Proxima SLA. 6 inch 2k Mono LCD.
Anycubic Predator, massive Delta machine. 450 x 370 print envelope.

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just got my printer 1.0Ai0 and the filament wasnt sticking, was lifting off, after finding this post I realised that when it was starting the head was about 1mm above the bed, adjusted with a sheet of paper, and nowstarted a print that looks as though it is sticking to the bed. Thanks, you have saved me a lot of frustration.

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Fast and easy metod:
1) rotate knob "B" to match some like 2.40 in P1.
2) rotate knob "A" to match minimal different between P2 and P3 (their behavior will be like a teeterboard).
3) rotate knob "C" to match minimal different between P1 and P2 and P3 (at this step P2 and P3 is leveling both, P1 is already leveled).

PS. Just remember - rotate only one knob at each step!!!

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