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Topic: Taulman 910 Nylon

Have been working on an RC project - have printed 2 prototypes in ABS - 1st was for fit of the pieces - low infill. 2nd was checking tweaks made and as a "working" model - high infill. In actual testing it didn't hold up very well for several reasons, not all of them related to the plastic used...

But anyway, in the quest for something more suitable I ordered a roll of the Taulman 910 Nylon and a roll of ABS based CF filament from another company (will do a proper review of that one later)

The spool the Taulman comes on is TINY! I could not fit it on my regular spool holder (3/4" ID PVC pipe over threaded rod, running on bearings in printed adapters) - I had to use the smaller version from my FT prusa (1/2" ID pipe, also on bearings) and that barely fit - had to remove the adapter from one end, load the spool, then re-install the bearing adapter & nuts that hold it all in place

Calibrations: went as usual - measured and averaged the filament diameter, print calibration cube, tweak settings, etc...

Taulman recommendations:
Extruder: 245-260
Bed: can be either cold, or warmed to 40C with a 50/50mix of PVA glue & water
Retraction: 0.1mm for each 0.1mm of nozzle size (0.4 nozzle would be 0.4mm of retraction) < yeah, right LOL

My actual settings:
Extruder: 249C (E3D v6)
Bed: 52C with a generous application of Aqua Net hairspray (may reduce this a bit after some more experimentation)
Retraction: my normal for ABS = 0.75mm - doubled it to 1.5mm and could stand a little more, but don't want to push it too high and end up with heat creep problems...

the stuff oozes like crazy at 245C, but to get good layer adhesion, I had to bump it up to 249C. increasing retraction has helped with the oozing/blobbing, but still get a fair amount...

Otherwise, I like this stuff. It prints easily, and stayed on the bed with the hairspray just fine. Did not need to add a brim to the parts I printed with it (had to have a brim with the ABS as they are small contact area items). Just the oozing is a "problem" and it isn't so terrible that I can't deal with it.

the parts turned out well and seem to be MUCH stronger than their ABS counterparts. They still need a little more tweaking (around screw holes mostly), but I think we may have a winner with this filament. Quite happy with it overall.

5 of the 8 pieces that make up the cab roll cage...

http://soliforum.com/i/?X6hoube.jpg

a closeup of the ooze blobbing, even after increasing retraction...

http://soliforum.com/i/?DUmJH6q.jpg

Cost was $32.00 + $5.50 shipping for a total of $37.50 for a 1lb spool (roughly 0.5kg) ordered thru Octave via Amazon...

and just because - spool size comparison... the old Octave spool, a standard sized Hatchbox spool, and the mini spool of the Taulman 910...

http://soliforum.com/i/?FuwnY5P.jpg

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Re: Taulman 910 Nylon

Nice review! You should be able to increase retraction further without heat creep problems.

Also I carry 910 for $29.99:

http://www.filastruder.com/collections/ … aulman-910

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Good to know! big_smile

I have the feeling I may be needing more of it if this works out as well as I think it will.

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I recall you had some slicing problems with this piece...what did they turn out to be?

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turned out it was a combo of 2 things - a pinched USB cable and my computer didn't like the newest version of RH (1.6.0) - reverted back to 1.0.6 and even with the old, pinched cable it worked fine. cable has since been replaced and haven't had a problem since

have been running more parts with the nylon and decided the hairspray wasn't quite holding well enough - would occasionally have an end lift and this stuff is too expensive to be dealing with that. Dug out the trusty old glue sticks and tried that - bingo! almost holds too well! Even with the bed completely cold I had to use a razor blade to get the parts off.

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Yeah, glue stick with Nylon is the only way to go,  I wish it wasn't so.

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Re: Taulman 910 Nylon

have you tried 100% infill? 

I printed some door lock parts this weekend at 100% and the supports were really difficult to remove and the blobbing at the top of the last portion extruded was bad.   some sand paper took care of it,  I just wonder if its my settings. part can be seen here. http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1306202

E3d v6 .4 nozzle.  4mm retraction in simplify3d, 1800mm/s speed.  247/50 temp.

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not quite 100% - using 90% which is plenty with this stuff.
Have not tried printing anything that requires support however, but yeah, as oozy as it is, I can see where it might be a pain for that.

I don't use S3D - see no reason to spend that kind of money when RH and Slic3r do a great job for me.
and somehow i think your speed is in mm/min, not mm/sec, lol.

also using E3D v6 with a 0.4 nozzle. I am currently using 1.75mm retraction - thinking about bumping that up to 2 tho... and base print speed is 35mm/sec (2100mm/min), extruder temp at 250, bed at 55 with the glue stick.
Am having pretty good success with horizontal holes and overhangs - it isn't drooping at all, just kind of blobby when traveling between areas

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yeah mm/min.  I actually just changed the display units to mm/sec since thats what all the vendors use and wasn't thinking

last I tried slicer I dont think it used multicores for the post processing.  maybe its changed, but $150 for CAM software is a drop in the bucket compared to hardware and CAD licenses

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to each their own. but it isn't worth it to me - at this point in time.
There are plenty of free alternatives for CAD/3d modeling programs that work great.
And very good free host & slicing programs as well - one just needs to learn how to use them to their fullest potential.
I see prints posted by people using S3D that don't look any better than what I can do with my free software - some actually look worse...

my point is, some people buy that program expecting it to be cure-all to all their 3d printing problems, when it isn't.

One still needs to take the time to properly calibrate & maintain the printer, and learn how to properly use the software of choice.
I have spent a lot of time doing just that. I know what my printer(s) is(are) capable of and have learned how to use the software I have chosen to run it(them), and I am still learning things as I go (never stop learning!).

Hardware, however, is a completely different issue.

SD4 #1 & #2 - Lawsy carriages, E3D v6, Rumba controller board, mirror bed plate, X motor fan, upgraded PSU & Mica bed heater
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